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| reply to TScheisskopf Re: Getting rid of the unions would be a good thing!
Or brother. My violin plays for him. I have a friend in the elevator union and he brags about his triple OT, 6 hour days getting paid for 8-12, huge on call bonuses plus benefits.
My guess is your buddy was very WELL PAID to wear a coat this Winter.
Hard working union worker is a contradiction in terms. And it's not bashing...more power to 'em. Everyone should have it so easy but then we would be like France...an irrelevant economic mess.
As for doing better work...my local DMV office and public school system seem to prove unions don't equal better work. All it means is overpaid workers with little to no accountability for any crappy work they do. -- Macintosh Users Group Serving the Inland Empire |
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| said by ColorBASIC :As for doing better work...my local DMV office and public school system seem to prove unions don't equal better work. All it means is overpaid workers with little to no accountability for any crappy work they do. With respect to the local school system, perhaps you should be looking at the quality of the children and the lack of parental involvement for why the teachers appear to be performing so poorly... -- Prove it... |
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| said by bmn :said by ColorBASIC :As for doing better work...my local DMV office and public school system seem to prove unions don't equal better work. All it means is overpaid workers with little to no accountability for any crappy work they do. With respect to the local school system, perhaps you should be looking at the quality of the children and the lack of parental involvement for why the teachers appear to be performing so poorly... Then why don't the teachers say that instead of saying they need more money for pay? All I hear in Baltimore City Public Schools is the need for higher pay for teachers. If they would say publicly the problem is parents, then I could see asking for more money. |
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| said by moonpuppy :said by bmn :said by ColorBASIC :As for doing better work...my local DMV office and public school system seem to prove unions don't equal better work. All it means is overpaid workers with little to no accountability for any crappy work they do. With respect to the local school system, perhaps you should be looking at the quality of the children and the lack of parental involvement for why the teachers appear to be performing so poorly... Then why don't the teachers say that instead of saying they need more money for pay? All I hear in Baltimore City Public Schools is the need for higher pay for teachers. If they would say publicly the problem is parents, then I could see asking for more money. Well, if I was working as hard as they do, as much out of the workplace as they have to, I'd be jumping up and down for more money, especially when you factor in how crappy their pay is in the grand scheme. They perform one of the most important jobs, far more important than that of CEOs and athletes (where do you think those people get their education, hmm ?), and get paid a pittance.
And you probably don't hear them saying it is the parents and children that are a part of the problem because it doesn't work for them and it doesn't make for good press. If they go out and say that the parents are one of the biggest reasons their kids of doing so poorly, it looks like they are deflecting blame. Problem is that I know a couple of teachers and they will tell you that schools have basically become day cares and that parents don't instill any discipline in their children anymore, which disrupts the learning process for all children. -- Prove it... |
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