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bmn
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Re: There is no "free lunch"

said by pnh102 See Profile :

What you are stating is simply a manufactured reason for setting up taxpayer-provided Wifi.
And one could reasonably state that your stance is the typically anti-progress stance of conservatives because, oh dear, it costs money...

That is a scary prospect. Someone turns on a microwave or uses a 2.4Ghz cordless phone and patients die because the Wifi doesn't work.
You clearly don't know much about wifi... Microwaves, due to shielding, should not emit radiation into the spectrum detrimental to the network. And the technologies built into newer phones work around wifi fairly well.

FUD.

So now we have to buy them even more expensive equipment to do the job that they should be doing just fine without it in the first place. That doesn't sound like progress to me.
Right, so instead of them being able to do more inspections more quickly without the long back end processing time where paper notes have to be deciphered and processed, we just keep the slow system. Typical conservative reaction. Complain about government inefficiency and take no steps to fix it. Status quo.

Government as an institution has existed on this planet for at least 6000 to 10000 years. It has been, nor will it ever be, efficient and responsive.
Do you have proof of this or is that a statement you and like minded people made to reinforce your beliefs ?
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast

said by bmn See Profile :

because, oh dear, it costs money...
So we should spend tax money on things we don't need for no good reason at all? Weren't you just telling me the war was costing too much?
said by bmn See Profile :

You clearly don't know much about wifi...
You clearly don't know much about healthcare. This is not an industry where great "leaps of faith" are made simply because of a "way cool now" technology. There are already ample ways for EMTs to communicate with hospitals that do not endanger the lives of patients. There is simply no need for a new technology that does not work as well.

There still are interference issues with Wifi. This is an indisputable, irrefutable fact. Any hospital or doctor that allows this technology to interfere with patient care and cost lives is going to be in a serious heap of trouble.
said by bmn See Profile :

Typical conservative reaction. Complain about government inefficiency and take no steps to fix it. Status quo.
We took your approach with public schooling in this country and we continue to throw more money at that year after year. I hear we have the best public schools on earth now... Oh wait a sec.
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bmn
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said by pnh102 See Profile :

So we should spend tax money on things we don't need for no good reason at all? Weren't you just telling me the war was costing too much?
If you ignore the reasons and dismiss them offhandedly as vendor propaganda, you can come to that conclusion that there are no good reasons. I've presents the facts and the uses, whereas you've not disproven, just dismissed.

You clearly don't know much about healthcare.
Actually, I probably know more about healthcare IT than you do considering I worked in it for several years...

This is not an industry where great "leaps of faith" are made simply because of a "way cool now" technology. There are already ample ways for EMTs to communicate with hospitals that do not endanger the lives of patients. There is simply no need for a new technology that does not work as well.

There still are interference issues with Wifi. This is an indisputable, irrefutable fact. Any hospital or doctor that allows this technology to interfere with patient care and cost lives is going to be in a serious heap of trouble.
Did anyone say it was being deployed yet ? I merely stated that there is an ongoing project to create such a system. Issues such as interference and packet loss can easily be addressed.

Unfortunately, the naysayers, such as your self, always come before the real research gets done... Seriously, if people with an attitude such as yours always won, we'd still have polio.

Typical conservative reaction. Complain about government inefficiency and take no steps to fix it. Status quo.
We took your approach with public schooling in this country and we continue to throw more money at that year after year. I hear we have the best public schools on earth now... Oh wait a sec.
Yeah, let's let the kids off the hook since they can't be held responsible for not doing what it takes to learn. And, oh no, we can't hold the parents responsible for (a) having intellectual morons for kids and/or (b) not being involved in the education of their children.

After all, it is all the fault of the government and the teachers solely... Wrong.

Sorry, but technology in education, when used properly actually works to the advantage of the students. Several school districts in my area have shown that to be the case. You just sit a child down and say do this or do that. You have to introduce it as a tool not an end all and be all.
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Sammer

join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
Many of these mesh networks are multiband and include the 4.9 Mhz licensed Public Safety band. There is much less interference on the 4.9 Mhz band than on WiFi.


pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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·Comcast

said by Sammer See Profile :

Many of these mesh networks are multiband and include the 4.9 Mhz licensed Public Safety band. There is much less interference on the 4.9 Mhz band than on WiFi.
<sarcasm>
Yes but that's not as cool as taxpayer-provided Wifi!
</sarcasm>

So who wants to the be the first person to die in the ambulance because of interference issues with Wifi?
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