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pnh102
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Re: Scientific fact > hysteria

said by jester121 See Profile :

Aren't we told over and over that climate change is a fact, because "all the world's top scientists believe it"?
Heh... wasn't it only 500 years ago that all of the world's top scientists were telling us that the world was flat too?
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Sorry, but 500 years ago, there was nobody that could even remotely be considered a "scientist" by modern standards. Those who tried were typically threatened with a nice dry stack of kindling until they "remembered" that the sun orbited the Earth and witches floated because they were made of wood.
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pnh102
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said by CrazyFingers See Profile :

Sorry, but 500 years ago, there was nobody that could even remotely be considered a "scientist" by modern standards.
And how can you say that someone who is a scientist today by modern standards will be looked upon as such 500 years from now?
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Now now pnh106, we both know that is an absurd statement.

We'll all be dead in 500 years after the arctic icecaps melt and the polar bears descend on us in a feeding frenzy.
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pnh102
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said by CrazyFingers See Profile :

Now now pnh106 (sic), we both know that is an absurd statement.
Why? You just said the same thing about the "scientists" of old. I am extending your statement to the scientists of new. Science certainly isn't dead as an academic discipline, and for us to assume that we "know everything" is silly and dangerous. To quote one such scientist, "we do not know, what we don't know."

My main problem with simply "going with the consensus" on any subject is that it discourages academic review. It is just as bad as answering every scientific question with the response "God did it." Without review and challenging of accepted scientific principles, how will we know that they are valid or not?
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*sigh*...

I had hoped that the sarcasm in the second sentence would have made the same in the first sentence obvious.
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pnh102
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said by CrazyFingers See Profile :

I over-estimated you.
You misunderestimated me
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Well, as long as you don't take the nukular option...
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AND...I suppose we with our combustion engines, etc. are causing the temperature on Mars and the rest of the solar system to rise in unison.

Most people have no doubt that global warming is happening. We just disagree with the largely unproven notion that mankind is the major contributor to the problem. I would more believe that the great ball of burning gas in the sky has a great bit of culpability. Really, IMHO (and that's all it is) the population is starting to grow wise to this scam being perpetrated upon us. This is why there is such a big media push behind the global warming movement. (One last hurrah before global cooling begins. AND that would be a disaster because then many of these radical far-left leaning organizations would not be able to control CO2 production--thus not be able to control the means of production. For in an industrialized nation, there are very few economic activities that do not produce CO2. Poor Al Gore wouldn't be able to sell any carbon credits.)
Time's almost up... and time will tell.

I also love those graphs depicting rising CO2 levels and their effect on temperature (PSST...what they don't tell you is they are backwards on cause and effect. With higher temperatures come higher CO2 measurements, not the other way around--a bit "Inconvenient" for some people.)

Wow--another thought: Water vapor is a major greenhouse gas. How do we stop water from evaporating?

For some it is a way to make us, as a civilization, feel important somehow when really we are just specks of dust along for the ride. OR is there a bigger more sinister reason that is oblivious to even those who are followers to the cause? There is a true Lord of the Sith--and it's not the bumbling dolt known as George Bush. He is the financier of all things left. His first name though, is also George.

AND for the last time: CO2 is not a pollutant--it's plant food!
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