US Broadband Price Comparisons > Great work Karl!

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Re: Great work Karl!

Yep, that's the "How dare you not have our crappy CATV?!?" fee. When I had ATTBi which didn't have the fee, I saw a 30% price increase when Comcast took over because of the fee. When Time Warner took over, their "penalty" is $5 on top of the service being cheaper (and no monthly usage caps enforced). Comcast fanboys would say it's a bundling discount, but the penalty doesn't work the other way. You don't get a CATV penalty when you don't have HSI.
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Macintosh Users Group Serving the Inland Empire

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Why is it shocking that a cable company has a discount on services other then cable when you subscribe to cable. I am sorry but it IS a bundle discount. Phone and CHSI? discounted CHSI, cable and CHSI? discounted CHSI. I guess by the reasoning you provide that it is a "penalty" that when you don't buy things on sale at a store you are paying a "penalty" for not waiting for a sale.

reply to MadMANN

No, it wasn't.

Comcast HSI is almost $60 a month for their slowest non "economy" plan. The $42.95 price is if you have their TV.

reply to Ebolla
The issue I have is this....

This story shows the FULL NON-BUNDLED price for something like Verizon FIOS, but then a note at the bottom about the discount.

For Comcast, it shows the Discounted BUNDLE rate in the main list without mention of the non-bundle price anywhere.

For example... I just called Comcast.

$57.95 for 4Mbps service without TV
$42.95 for 6Mpbs service with TV.

Comcrap is not only charging $15 more, but giving less! Thank God FIOS came in just before Comcast took over Adelphia here (who didn't charge more for non-TV customers - they stopped doing it)

The list here for Comcast should have listed $57.95 as the price of the service with a note about the $15 discount for bundling - just as they (dslreports) did for the FIOS.

You're right, for consistent format's sake. I will change that.

reply to Ebolla
No one here ever saw their prices drop. Those with HSI and no CATV like me saw our rates skyrocket 30%. Those with HSI and CATV saw their HSI rate stay exactly the same. There was no discount, EVER. The ONLY change to anyone's bill was a price increase for those HSI subs without CATV.

Sorry but an avoidance of an increase isn't a discount no matter how Comcast apologists try and phrase it.

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Macintosh Users Group Serving the Inland Empire

no YOU saw an increase in your area due to pricing going from Adelphia's pricing to comcasts pricing. I didnt see anything except a decrease as it has always run that way with billing. Comparing pricing from one company to another isnt exactly an accurate representation of the facts.

ATTBi's pricing. MediaOne - ATTB - Comcast - Time Warner.

Comcast instituted the penalty 6 months after taking over from ATTB. That's 6 months before suddenly and with no notice taking a 30% increase. The only direction the bills went was up. No one saw any discount, only increases or no changes.

Avoiding a price increase is not discount no matter how you or Brian Roberts want to spin it.
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Macintosh Users Group Serving the Inland Empire

reply to mglunt
Yeah! That's why I went with Basic Basic Cable (not the same basic as the $40+ package - but a hold over from TCI and ATTBI) for $15.00 a month, which "basically" comes out to free cable since I'd have to pay $59 anyway if I didn't have cable! Before that, we didn't have TV reception. I'm not sure if were better off now, because I probably watch too much TV, though my kids really don't watch that much anyway. I'm reasonably satisfied with Comcast, but have considered getting the Performance Plus package 8Mbps/768kbps for $52.95! I've been putting that off.

Having said that, I sure wish that Verizon FiOS was available here! I mean 15Mbps/2Mbps for $49.95? That's got to be the best in the US, for the buck. Unfortunately it doesn't come anywhere close to some other countries like Korea and Japan who reportedly have 100 megabits. That's another story however.

I do want to say that I really appreciate Karl's excellent work on this.
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reply to MadMANN
Well then his pricing is off a bit.

$57.95 is what I would pay for HSI only and I would receive 4Mbps.

reply to Ebolla


I remember years ago when Comcast first started the bundle "discount". I was a DTV customer for TV, and paying roughly $40 for HSI and a Modem rental from Comcast.

Then, Comcast decided to offer this bundle "discount" as you call it.

Only problem with the "discount" was that the people with Comcast TV just got to keep on paying the same rate, but the people without Comcast TV got to pay $5 (I think that's what it was at the time) more for service.

In other words when the "discounts" as you call them went into effect, nobody saw their bills drop. How then is it a discount?

reply to damox
It's $50 for 15/2 only if you sign a 1 year contract. Otherwise they charge a big install fee an an $8 per month "How dare you not want to get locked into a Verizon contract?!?" penalty.

In my service area, TWC's non-contract price is a few bucks cheaper than FiOS' non-contract for the same 15/2 service.

As for 100Mb services, Cogent supplies 1Gb services to MUDs here though availability is limited. We just get to hear about the "best" available elsewhere leaving some with the impression that US BB sucks when nothing could be farther from the truth.
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Macintosh Users Group Serving the Inland Empire

reply to mglunt
In our area Comcast's out of nowhere penalty was $14.00. I just opened my bill and one month and it jumped from $42.95 to $56.95. Additionally I was passed over for many of the speed increases Comcast had. Comcast really socked it to you on many fronts if you didn't want their crappy CATV service.
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Macintosh Users Group Serving the Inland Empire

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