Just Bob
Premium
join:2000-08-13
Spring Hill, FL | PC World AV review
»www.pcworld.com/article/id,13086···cle.html
I expect some strong reactions.  |
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Elite
join:2002-10-03
Orange, CT | KAV 6 wins, end of story.
It should also be noted that we'll be seeing version 7 very soon as it's out of beta.
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
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That review a month old! Why not publish the results of AV-Test.org latest tests just released TODAY? I suppose because while KAV did great...it isn't number one in the tests? 
The best desktop product is AVK with Avira number two. Kaspersky is number 5.
If you want some strong reactions...well those will be regarding NOD32 and F-Prot scores on AV-Test.org latest tests.
Program # Detected Detection %
WebWasher 605,846 99.83%
AVK 2007 604,255 99.56%
AntiVir 603,408 99.42%
F-Secure 594,333 97.93%
Symantec 593,355 97.77%
Kaspersky 592,606 97.64%
Fortinet 589,028 97.06%
Avast! 584,574 96.32%
AVG 583,541 96.15%
Rising 582,772 96.02%
BitDefender 580,700 95.68%
Norman 574,476 94.66%
Ikarus 561,607 92.54%
Panda 558,899 92.09%
Trend Micro 552,107 90.97%
Nod32 536,043 88.32%
McAfee 529,680 87.28%
Dr Web 520,959 85.84%
F-Prot 517,491 85.27%
VBA32 498,264 82.10%
Sophos 496,135 81.75%
eSafe 495,074 81.57%
Microsoft 488,942 80.56%
Ewido 456,660 75.24%
VirusBuster 441,341 72.72%
Command 414,036 68.22%
ClamAV 387,276 63.81%
QuickHeal 382,557 63.03%
eTrust-VET 376,983 62.12%
»www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2135053,00.asp
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Just Bob
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join:2000-08-13
Spring Hill, FL | I'd sure like to see more details. Anyone find the full report? |
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nickal78
join:2001-12-20
Philadelphia, PA | I'm glad symantec did so well. I'm switching from microsoft onecare and just bought symantec's security suite and from the test it seems like I made a good choice. |
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jbob
Reach Out and Touch Someone
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join:2004-04-26
Little Rock, AR
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When you say that AV-Test just released the latest tests today I was looking but couldn't find any. lol Then I noticed your link was to PCMag. AV-Test does not release tests. It tests for magazines. Paid testing. Beyond that I wonder why there is such a difference in ratings between the tests performed by the same vendor but published by different magazines? PCWorld vs PCMag.
The ratings are different though. |
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| said by jbob  :When you say that AV-Test just released the latest tests today I was looking but couldn't find any. lol Then I noticed your link was to PCMag. AV-Test does not release tests. It tests for magazines. Paid testing. Beyond that I wonder why there is such a difference in ratings between the tests performed by the same vendor but published by different magazines? PCWorld vs PCMag. The ratings are different though. The tests were different and used a different test bed. The PC Magazine test uses only current malware 600,000 samples and did not test for how well the AV cleaned the problem.
Here's more breakdown by category of malware. NOD32 and F-Prot scores are really puzzling. Both are completely off other recent testing.
»www.sunbelt-software.com/ihs/ale···07q2.htm
PCWorld reports a 24% slowdown using KAV and Fx 2.0. Ouch.
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nickal78
join:2001-12-20
Philadelphia, PA | webwasher came in number 1. it must be good but i never heard of it. |
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Grail Knight
Who Dares Wins
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join:2003-05-31
·Verizon Online DSL
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PCWorld reports a 24% slowdown using KAV and Fx 2.0. Ouch.
Unless more then one computer was used running Fx 2.0 I would not put to much stock in that slowdown percentage.
Test KAV on 50 computers running 2.0 and if you see the same slowdown and I might believe it.
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StatsRock
@pacbell.net | Statistically, you do not need to run it on 50 computers for it to be a valid data.
If all the software is tested on the same machine and/or configuration, then a 24% slowdown is valid as long as you compare to the other AV's test results. |
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Grail Knight
Who Dares Wins
Premium
join:2003-05-31 | True, providing all tests were run on the same computer.
You will have to ask PC-World if the same computer was used to run all tests. |
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jaykaykay
4 Ever Young
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-13
Scottsdale, AZ
·Speakeasy
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I chose to try a Suite when getting my new system and ended up with Zone Alarm Security suite which seems to be rated, as Suites go, fairly well in many places, »www.firewallguide.com/bestreviews.htm, being one of them. |
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jadinolf
I love you Fred
Premium
join:2005-07-09
Ojai, CA | I'll still stay with avast! FREE. |
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
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said by nickal78 :webwasher came in number 1. it must be good but i never heard of it. It's a gateway product. That is probably why you have never heard of it. It is not for consumers. As far as consumers are concerned, AVK is number one and Avira is right behind it.
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Psicop
More human than human
Premium
join:2005-12-21
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I'll still stay with avast! FREE.
Nice. Free and steady. It's slowly climbing its way to the top:
February 2005.......90.81%
August 2005.........91.06%
February 2006.......89.24%
August 2006.........92.01%
February 2007.......93.86%
May 2007.............96% |
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Jer03
join:2006-08-16
Las Cruces, NM
| Although I am not currently using it, Avast Home is an excellent AV and has improved. It has always been the AV I go to when I am not sure which one I want to use.
FWIW I am using Avira Premium and F-Secure IS on my two computers.
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Jerry |
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DavidGGG
join:2007-07-06
Chesterfield, VA
1 edit | reply to Just Bob
Thanks for actually posting facts in this thread (that's not the case in other threads on AV). One well-known AV tester you haven't mentioned, which unlike av-test.org actually publish their results, is: »www.av-comparatives.org/ . Be sure to look at the TWO latest tests since they test different things.
I think all of these results are interesting, including PC World. But one has to be aware how the tests are done - they are only valid for a short time (probably days). And their ranking is based on different aspects.
What I really want is not to see which AV is THE best THIS month, but rather an assessment which AV is to trust, based on AV tests for the last year or so. I mean, for example an AV at av-comparatives.org may well drop from top-ranking to below average from one test to the next, but if the AV is basically good and the staff behind it know what they're doing, then it will probably be back on top in the next test. I'm not about to change AV every month due to which was No.1 in the latest test, unless it has a major flaw or is very sluggish in updating.
This also means that I think it's no big point to say this one is number 1 and this one is only number 5 - I'd rather say "the ones with figures above 95% are all very good" when looking at a specific test, and beyond that, to weigh it against other tests, and other aspects like false positives, proactive defence, system slowdown and ease of use.
Regarding F-Secure: I tried that a couple of years ago - what a tremendeous resource hogger, it runs about a dozen processes (compared to KAV6 which has 2)! I'm using KAV6 with no problems. |
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norwegian
Premium
join:2005-02-15
Outback
·WestNet Broadband
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said by Mele20 :said by nickal78 :webwasher came in number 1. it must be good but i never heard of it. It's a gateway product. That is probably why you have never heard of it. It is not for consumers. Thought I'd look into this when the test came out, and after submitting all my personal info, found out I wasn't eligable due to not having 25 or more computers. All the home user gets is a proxy to run the browser though. Guess that will stop a few things getting in. Adding another proxy isn't a good thing here.
Anyone trialing or using the free proxy, and can provide some feedback ?
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Sindows 7
join:2006-09-13
Hope, BC
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said by Psicop :I'll still stay with avast! FREE.Nice. Free and steady. It's slowly climbing its way to the top: February 2005.......90.81% August 2005.........91.06% February 2006.......89.24% August 2006.........92.01% February 2007.......93.86% May 2007............. 96% Download price when reviewed: $40
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MagMan
Life is simpler when you tell the truth.
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join:2003-10-01
Westlake, OH | reply to Just Bob
I will stay with a Suite NIS 2007 ! works fine for me. |
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