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alottabull

join:2004-09-04
Cen Tex

reply to whocares0

Re: for those that use "WIRELESS", this could happen to you

Also think about this. If that man wouldn't have told him he was using the free wifi from the cafe the cop would have never known. Not to mention he wouldn't have the information needed to further pursue the case. If he had a suspicion he could notify the cafe and see if they wanted to pursue it but otherwise what is he going to do? I am not saying it is not illegal but if you are blasting the signal out to the world you should expect non-customers to use it. Otherwise secure it. Just like you said about the law, ignorance of the technology is no excuse. If you leave it open you get what you deserve. Just like if I leave my keys in my car with the windows down with a brand new $5000 stereo system in the bad part of town I will get what I deserve.


Camelot One
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join:2001-11-21
Austin, TX
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said by alottabull:

Also think about this. If that man wouldn't have told him he was using the free wifi from the cafe the cop would have never known. Not to mention he wouldn't have the information needed to further pursue the case. If he had a suspicion he could notify the cafe and see if they wanted to pursue it but otherwise what is he going to do? I am not saying it is not illegal but if you are blasting the signal out to the world you should expect non-customers to use it. Otherwise secure it. Just like you said about the law, ignorance of the technology is no excuse. If you leave it open you get what you deserve. Just like if I leave my keys in my car with the windows down with a brand new $5000 stereo system in the bad part of town I will get what I deserve.
I mostly agree, but analogies that compare physical goods theft to "theft of internet service" never really apply. If someone walked off with your stereo, you are out a stereo. If someone uses your unsecured wifi network, which you are already sharing freely with anyone who walks through the door, that is entirely different.

Everything else, I agree. Secure it, or live with the occasional freeloader. One quick and simple method would be to change the passcode daily, and print the days code on every receipt. Plenty of other ways to go about it. But even when someone uses your free-to-customers service without buying anything, you still haven't lost anything.
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alottabull

join:2004-09-04
Cen Tex

Good point. To be closer to the scenario I should have said they started the car and used my radio or something like that. It is hard to make the comparison but what I was trying to get out of it is if you leave things unsecured you expect anything to happen. Same with your internet access. If you choose to broadcast it out to everyone and don't secure it you should expect it to be used by anyone. I am not saying it is legal but there is not much that can be done other than an officer just happening to stumble upon some poor honest sap that admits it.


whocares0
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join:2003-07-26
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Coincidentally, the cafe owner that Peterson was leeching WiFi off of didn't even realize that what Peterson was doing was a crime at the time. Neither did the police officer. "I had a feeling a law was being broken, but I didn't know exactly what," Sparta police chief Andrew Milanowski told the TV station.
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the more i think about this the more that i am inclined to think, "this cop was looking to make an arrest on that day to impress someone or build their own ego, it would have mattered what a person was doing or did
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