| Computer Wiretapping Galore Starts Now Well, started yesterday: May 14 was the deadline for just about every type of Internet service provider to wire their networks with the FBI's electronic surveillance equipment, which will allow for data wiretaps of any user of the service at the flip of a switch.
It's part of CALEA (Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act), which Congress passed way back in 1994, and it was quickly rolled out to telephone networks (your cell phone is already ready for its tap, folks). In 2002 the new law was expanded to cover ISPs as well. On Monday it went into effect.
CALEA doesn't mean that you're under surveillance all the time, but
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Redondo Beach, CA | said by whocares0:CALEA doesn't mean that you're under surveillance all the time, but ...it likely means the dozens of terrorist cells in this country will have to resort to carrier pigeons for communications. Desperate times warrant desperate measures.
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1 edit | also pending,,,, to expand wiretapping considerably by forcing ISPs to "record all users' surfing activity,indefinitely."
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kudos:1 | said by whocares0:also pending,,,, to expand wiretapping considerably by forcing ISPs to "record all users' surfing activity,indefinitely." We are not forced to record users 24/7
The only time we can record any type of information is when the ISP has a court order to do so.
I just finished putting the final touches on our Calea box. I have read everything there is to read on Calea, and jazzy is just plain wrong
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The change to CALEA was implimented (and discussed here) a week ago (and it's NOT "computer wire tapping"):
»Tomorrow the FBI will be able to wiretap all internet users
CALEA was passed by Congress in 1994. All this addendum does is add current communication "standards", ISP's and VoIP. As always, a court order is required.
In October 1994, Congress took action to protect public safety and ensure national security by enacting the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (CALEA), Pub. L. No. 103-414, 108 Stat. 4279. The law further defines the existing statutory obligation of telecommunications carriers to assist law enforcement in executing electronic surveillance pursuant to court order or other lawful authorization. The objective of CALEA implementation is to preserve law enforcement's ability to conduct lawfully-authorized electronic surveillance while preserving public safety, the public's right to privacy, and the telecommunications industry's competitiveness.
May 3, 2006 Second Report, Memorandum Opinion, and Order -- The primary goal of the Order is to ensure that Law Enforcement Agencies have all of the resources that CALEA authorizes with regard to facilities-based broadband Internet access providers (ISP) and interconnected voice over Internet protocol (VOIP) providers.
»www.askcalea.net/
New LI Standard for ISP data
April 20, 2007
On April 2, 2007, the ATIS Standard on Lawfully Authorized Electronic Surveillance (LAES) for Internet Access and Services (ATIS-1000013.2007) was approved. This standard has been defined primarily for use in the US for broadband (ISP, WISP) service providers in response to the FCC’s 2005 and 2006 Report and Orders. Those Report and Orders require all “facilities based broadband and interconnected VoIP” service providers to be CALEA compliant by May 14, 2007 (which is just around the corner). The FCC issued the Report and Orders after the FBI, DOJ and DEA filed a joint petition outlining the need to access communications deemed “information services” in the original CALEA legislation. Clearly broadband services today (email, video, chat, VoIP etc.) are no longer the one way data access “information services” that defined the internet in the early 90’s when CALEA was passed.
This standard is the latest standard to be adopted globally and is in keeping with international trends to keep law enforcement’s capabilities current with advancing technologies. The European standards body (ETSI) adopted a similar “data” standard several years ago as legislation there has existed for many years, with the Netherlands leading the way and passing legislation in 2001 that defined the very first data standard which was TIIT (Transport of Intercepted IP Traffic)....
»blog.tmcnet.com/lawful-intercept···data.asp
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said by whocares0:also pending,,,, to expand wiretapping considerably by forcing ISPs to "record all users' surfing activity,indefinitely." Got a credible link to that statement?
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said by heels_fan:said by whocares0:also pending,,,, to expand wiretapping considerably by forcing ISPs to "record all users' surfing activity,indefinitely." We are not forced to record users 24/7 The only time we can record any type of information is when the ISP has a court order to do so. I just finished putting the final touches on our Calea box. I have read everything there is to read on Calea, and jazzy is just plain wrong I won't get into an argument with you,just say
THEN MAY I strongly suggest you write to the US Congress, US Semate,and to these Rep's and tell them THEY are wrong,
Sponsor:
Rep. Lamar Smith, web form, 202-225-4236
Cosponsors:
Rep. Steve Chabot, (202) 225-2216
Rep. Tom Feeney, (202) 225-2706
Rep. J. Randy Forbes, (202) 225-6365
Rep. Trent Franks, (202) 225-4576
Rep. Elton Gallegly, (202) 225-5811
Rep. Dan Lungren, (202) 225-5716
Rep. Mike Pence, (202) 225-3021
House Judiciary Committee Chair:
didn't above post also state, PENDING,A bill introduced last week by Representative Lamar Smith (R-TX) is beginning to raise eyebrows.
[It] would require ISPs to record all users’ surfing activity, IM conversations and email traffic indefinitely. The bill, dubbed the Safety Act by sponsor Lamar Smith, a republican congressman from Texas, would impose fines and a prison term of one year on ISPs which failed to keep full records. (emphasis mine)
or maybe you need do some more research
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kudos:1 | Like I said Jazzy. I have done my research. I have talked with local, State, and Federal Law enforcement officials on this issue. I am in the business and I do this stuff everyday
It might just be that you need to do a little more research.
Have a good day my friend
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1 edit | I won't get into an argument with you,just say
THEN MAY I strongly suggest you write to the US Congress, US Semate,and to these Rep's and tell them THEY are wrong,
Sponsor:
Rep. Lamar Smith, web form, 202-225-4236
Cosponsors:
Rep. Steve Chabot, (202) 225-2216
Rep. Tom Feeney, (202) 225-2706
Rep. J. Randy Forbes, (202) 225-6365
Rep. Trent Franks, (202) 225-4576
Rep. Elton Gallegly, (202) 225-5811
Rep. Dan Lungren, (202) 225-5716
Rep. Mike Pence, (202) 225-3021
House Judiciary Committee Chair:
didn't above post also state, PENDING,A bill introduced last week by Representative Lamar Smith (R-TX) is beginning to raise eyebrows.
would require ISPs to record all users’ surfing activity, IM conversations and email traffic indefinitely. The bill, dubbed the Safety Act by sponsor Lamar Smith, a republican congressman from Texas, would impose fines and a prison term of one year on ISPs which failed to keep full records.
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Jazzy, you should not go editing your post when you are posting wrong information.
Calea is not "computer Wire tapping"
It is a tool that used by law enforcement to catch numerous type of criminals such as child predators. You have posted numerous article about child predators and child safety online. I would think that you would see this as a good thing....
oh well.
My biggest gripe about the whole thing is that the ISP has to pocket the cost of the whole thing. This took a chunk out of my budget this year.
Have a wonderful night Jazzy
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said by La Luna:The change to CALEA was implimented (and discussed here) a week ago (and it's NOT "computer wire tapping"): » Tomorrow the FBI will be able to wiretap all internet usersCALEA was passed by Congress in 1994. All this addendum does is add current communication "standards", ISP's and VoIP. As always, a court order is required. In October 1994, Congress took action to protect public safety and ensure national security by enacting the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (CALEA), Pub. L. No. 103-414, 108 Stat. 4279. The law further defines the existing statutory obligation of telecommunications carriers to assist law enforcement in executing electronic surveillance pursuant to court order or other lawful authorization. The objective of CALEA implementation is to preserve law enforcement's ability to conduct lawfully-authorized electronic surveillance while preserving public safety, the public's right to privacy, and the telecommunications industry's competitiveness.
May 3, 2006 Second Report, Memorandum Opinion, and Order -- The primary goal of the Order is to ensure that Law Enforcement Agencies have all of the resources that CALEA authorizes with regard to facilities-based broadband Internet access providers (ISP) and interconnected voice over Internet protocol (VOIP) providers.» www.askcalea.net/New LI Standard for ISP data
April 20, 2007
On April 2, 2007, the ATIS Standard on Lawfully Authorized Electronic Surveillance (LAES) for Internet Access and Services (ATIS-1000013.2007) was approved. This standard has been defined primarily for use in the US for broadband (ISP, WISP) service providers in response to the FCC’s 2005 and 2006 Report and Orders. Those Report and Orders require all “facilities based broadband and interconnected VoIP” service providers to be CALEA compliant by May 14, 2007 (which is just around the corner). The FCC issued the Report and Orders after the FBI, DOJ and DEA filed a joint petition outlining the need to access communications deemed “information services” in the original CALEA legislation. Clearly broadband services today (email, video, chat, VoIP etc.) are no longer the one way data access “information services” that defined the internet in the early 90’s when CALEA was passed.
This standard is the latest standard to be adopted globally and is in keeping with international trends to keep law enforcement’s capabilities current with advancing technologies. The European standards body (ETSI) adopted a similar “data” standard several years ago as legislation there has existed for many years, with the Netherlands leading the way and passing legislation in 2001 that defined the very first data standard which was TIIT (Transport of Intercepted IP Traffic)....» blog.tmcnet.com/lawful-intercept···data.asp*yawn* Call it what you want, sniffing, tapping, splitting, it's the same thing. They have a plitter that will send the data to their equipment to record.  You are being recorded as we speak  |
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Jazzy, you should not go editing your post when you are posting wrong information.
didn't above 2nd post also state, PENDING,A bill introduced last week by Representative Lamar Smith (R-TX) is beginning to raise eyebrows.
[It] would require ISPs to record all users’ surfing activity, IM conversations and email traffic indefinitely. The bill, dubbed the Safety Act by sponsor Lamar Smith, a republican congressman from Texas, would impose fines and a prison term of one year on ISPs which failed to keep full records. (emphasis mine)
or maybe you need do some more research
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THE ONLY THING that was HYLITED again in the 5th post,PENDING was so you could see that 2nd post said PENDING
but i can see reguardless of what i or anyone else say
your going to claim to be RIGHT.
write to those rep's & tell them they are wrong,& news agency is wrong,
h a g d
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I would believe Heels_Fan since this person is in this type of business. Perhaps you are wrong? |
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What a shock - someone who doesn't understand the current environment and therefore resorts to hyperbole to overcome an inherent intellectual weakness...be still my heart.
NOTE: This post is directed to Jazzy, not heels_fan - I think heels is correct.
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said by TwinkleToes :
I would believe Heels_Fan since this person is in this type of business. Perhaps you are wrong?
AT&T never let the NSA tap and record anything either, huh?
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2 edits | Well then i GUESS EVERYONE NEED TO READ THE ARTICLE,
just because one man decides to jumps off a cliff,
I guess that MEANS everyone should follow him.
guess you'll say the news is wrong also...
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Barberton, OH | said by whocares0:Well then i GUESS EVERYONE NEED TO READ THE ARTICLE,just because one man decides to jumps off a cliff, I guess that MEANS everyone should follow him. guess you'll say the news is wrong also... Lets just say i dont beleive half of what the media put out there. The major media outlets are in it purely for the money. Looks at 19 action news (not sure what your equiv is where you live) They run these tabloid like headlines all the time. The content of the story the headline is for is so full of garbage filler its not even funny.
Ive not trusted the media for any real information in years. The outlets lie so freakign much to furhter their own agenda its not even funny any more.
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| guess the F.B.I. can't be believed either. In 2002 the new law was expanded to cover ISPs as well. On Monday it went into effect.
CALEA doesn't mean that you're under surveillance all the time, but it does make it possible (and relatively simple) for the FBI to "flip a switch" to turn on an electronic wiretap inside 24 hours. As the Wired blog entry linked above notes: The standards for getting a wiretap are still the same as before. Law enforcement still has to demonstrate cause to a judge, however judges do indeed tend to rubber stamp such requests. So there is cause for concern here. |
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said by FiOS Dan:said by whocares0:CALEA doesn't mean that you're under surveillance all the time, but ...it likely means the dozens of terrorist cells in this country will have to resort to carrier pigeons for communications. Desperate times warrant desperate measures. Won't someone please think of the children? Terrorism, 911, Pedophiles oh my.
DUH, this law was passed in 1994, long before Bush and his evil puppet master Chaney flushed America and the constitution down the toilet. |
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