niagara_man1
join:2007-05-02
Niagara Falls, NY
1 edit | reply to kshymkiw
Re: "Up to....."
I knew they had 2 meg uploads for a couple years now.
Remeber there are better companys out there than TW. Just because you cant leave the tet |
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niagara_man1
join:2007-05-02
Niagara Falls, NY | reply to niagara_man1
um no I dont think no one cheated me EXCEPT TIME Fing Warner. And all those id10t who are in management and run that crappy company. |
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kshymkiw
join:2004-12-21
Columbus, OH
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said by niagara_man1  :I dont drink timmy Ho's! I really think you just like to complain about things that have zero relevance.
Your the type of person, who knows they would lose at an argument, but still argues just to argue. You like to go after the "exact" of everything. If you calculated how much you got cheated out of every little thing in life, I am sure that is some astronomical number. i.e
Tim Hortons/Mcdonalds, only fills up your large coffe 95% of the way
TWC only gives you 4.8 out of 5 Mb
The Gas station pumps stop earlier than expected
you can complain about every little thing, but it just isn't worth it. |
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niagara_man1
join:2007-05-02
Niagara Falls, NY | reply to tmaertin
I dont drink timmy Ho's! |
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kshymkiw
join:2004-12-21
Columbus, OH
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said by dbmaven :said by kshymkiw :btw, I don't know of any Cable provider that is doing a 2Mb upload. TWC RR has 2M upload in several markets on their top tier (and no, I'm not talking about Business Class). New York's Cablevision (OOL) standard is 15/2, and you can opt to pay a few $ more for 30/5. Did not know that. |
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BurntCricket
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OK how is this for all those that are of the "I am NOT getting what I am paying for" mindset .... Now I am not talking large differences here but a few kb here and there ....
They LOWER the bandwidth you "pay for" to a level that most in your area actually see ... BUT, with no decrease in price ... Hows that ???
WOW I am paying for 4.5MB but I get 4.8Mb ... SWEET.
On Dial-up, ALL providers claimed a 56K level, which is NOT possible, EVER, some for technical reasons, others regulatory.
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Steve Mehs
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14.6 out of 15. Over 97% on both up and down. I'm satisfied. I have better things to worry about then the 409Kbps I'm being 'cheated' out of. I fully support the phrase 'up to' and I fully support Time Warner Cable and I'm very happy with my speeds and overall service. |
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tmaertin
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the problem with this whole argument is that you didnt get 100% of your network capacity before?
do you complain at timmy ho's when they quoted you a large coffee but the cup is filled only 95% of the way?
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| reply to kshymkiw
said by kshymkiw :btw, I don't know of any Cable provider that is doing a 2Mb upload. TWC RR has 2M upload in several markets on their top tier (and no, I'm not talking about Business Class).
New York's Cablevision (OOL) standard is 15/2, and you can opt to pay a few $ more for 30/5.
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alpha_kky
join:2007-05-26
Palm Desert, CA
| reply to niagara_man1
AS you know, and it has been this way ever since dial-up first broke the 2400 bps speed, that speeds will depend on too many factors to absolutely guarantee speeds. 5Mb may be the tier that you have, and that should be the best under perfect conditions. Roadrunner Premium can go "up to" 10Mb, but generally it can be regarded as faster than standard Roadrunner at 5 Mb.
So you have to take speed ratings with a grain of salt, and use speed tools to see what you can actually get. |
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kshymkiw
join:2004-12-21
Columbus, OH
1 edit | reply to niagara_man1
said by niagara_man1 :and no its not 15. its 60 a month and Im not asking for a FREAKING SLA. I am asking for the same service I had. OR OFFER MORE BANDWIDTH FOR THE UPLOAD AND I WILL BUY IT. I never once stated I didnt want to pay for it. I however do not want to pay 250+ a month for a 2 meg upload in my area with TW biz. Not when most ever other cable provider offers 1-2 meg uploads at residential prices. READ WHAT I BEEN POSTED THE LAST MONTH! From the first post you made on this forum, to this. I can't believe what you say half the time.
If you don't mind paying, then get a T1. Or get TWC Business Class. Or go DSL.
I personally don't care that you work with DS1's or DS3's. I work with OC-192, so your point is very mute. OC-192 is often called 10Gig, but it isn't. It is 9.5 Gig of payload, because of the 500Mb of overhead. Should we all cry to Juniper and Cisco that they advertise OC-192 cards, but we can only get 9.5 Gig?
It is inherent that people in the business know the protocols, and also know what the phrase "Up to 5Mb" means. I have Business Class service provisioned at 7x2 and I constantly see 9x1.7. TWC Also allows for Burst, and other things. Typically 384k is available for burst.
Your car that is rated for 300 HP, puts it out, but only at the crank, not the wheels. Your Internet connection that is rated for 5Mb, puts it out, just farther into the network than your Cable modem.
btw, I don't know of any Cable provider that is doing a 2Mb upload.
**EDIT** As well Time Warner offers a 5Mb Bandwidth, not 5Mb of Throughput. There is a huge difference between Bandwidth and actual Throughput. |
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niagara_man1
join:2007-05-02
Niagara Falls, NY
| reply to ColorBASIC
and no its not 15. its 60 a month and Im not asking for a FREAKING SLA. I am asking for the same service I had. OR OFFER MORE BANDWIDTH FOR THE UPLOAD AND I WILL BUY IT.
I never once stated I didnt want to pay for it. I however do not want to pay 250+ a month for a 2 meg upload in my area with TW biz.
Not when most ever other cable provider offers 1-2 meg uploads at residential prices.
READ WHAT I BEEN POSTED THE LAST MONTH! |
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niagara_man1
join:2007-05-02
Niagara Falls, NY | reply to dadarkside
im not talking about "No mans land" and the sites I download from are ds3+. So I can get the full speed. |
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1 edit | reply to niagara_man1
yea they should give us te full speed or more |
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ColorBASIC
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
2 edits | reply to BurntCricket
Re: "Up to....."
Nope because you still have rabblerousers who think you should get an SLA guaranteed service for $15 »Are You Getting the Speed You Pay For? that is enforced by the gov't weights and measures people.
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dadarkside
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join:2006-05-20
The Moon | reply to niagara_man1
You got circuit overhead, and protocol overhead. You still don't get the full.
Aside from that, once you reach the exchange point, you're in no man's land and NO ONE can guarantee what kind of performance you'll experience.
No one. |
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BurntCricket
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I thought this "up to" debate regarding Internet Service was settled years ago ..... 
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ColorBASIC
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Corona, CA
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Not so much about the whole "up to" debate but I believe read in another thread that the 15Mb plan I'm on is actually provisioned higher than 15Mb. Not enough to cover overhead but it's still higher. If memory serves it was about 350kbps higher than advertised speeds.
But talk about overhead...when I has 7.1Mb DSL service with Verizon, they provisioned at something like 7.6Mb and I was lucky to get 6.5Mb from it. Not to mention it was $150/mo. So when I get 14.3Mb from my 15Mb service for $55 I'm bent about it.
Where I disagree with the whole up-to thing is if they say up to 5Mb but due to network problems someone gets less than 2Mb. I see that as a different situation that advertising 5Mb and someone routinely seeing 4.5Mb+ from it.
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Rombus
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join:2007-04-11
Columbus, OH
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Re: Speed is bad again in WNY (2:45pm)
said by hwirt :"I think "up to" sums it up quite well" I can't think of any other industry that could get away with a disclaimer like that. It basically makes the claim preceding it meaningless. You you buy a computer with a microprocessor speed up to 3 Ghz? You you buy a car with an engine that makes up to 300 HP. The problem with this industry it that there is no legitimate criteria or metric for quantifying performance. Until there is the consumer will not get what is advertised or what he or she is paying for. If I was getting my connection for free like some others here I would have nothing to complain about. Ever look at Hard Drives? Think that 250GB hard drive will ACTUALLY Store 250GB? Nope, they round up too! look at the fine print some day. |
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