Morty
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join:2004-09-18
| reply to K Patterson
Re: Notice of Claim of Copyright Infrigement letter
said by K Patterson  :said by Maarvin :It is legal to download. And where does this appear in the law? It is just as illegal as sharing. Just a lot harder to catch you at it. It is illegal to download copyrighted material in the US. Even if you own a copy of a movie for example, it is still illegal to download the movie, as the rights sold to you are for the DVD. Legally, you can create a backup copy, given that it is not shared to anyone else. In Canada, the copyright laws are more slack, and state that it is not illegal to download copyright material given that the material being downloaded is being used for personal or educational uses, and that it is not sold or redistributed in any form. Therefore, in the US it is illegal to download or upload, and in Canada it is legal to download material (pending it is for personal/educational use), however it is illegal to upload any of the data. The US Government and movie/music industry have been pushing for the Canadian Government to change this legislation. |
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MrPeach
@comcast.net | reply to eric87m
Run Peer Guardian 2. I received 2 of those notices then started running PG2 and haven't gotten another since. |
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NormanS
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San Jose, CA
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| reply to K Patterson
said by K Patterson :said by Maarvin :It is legal to download. And where does this appear in the law? It is just as illegal as sharing. Just a lot harder to catch you at it. I have never been able to find the law which explicitly makes downloading illegal. I've always assumed it is like the law against cannibalism; there is no such law. You can legally eat human meat as long as you don't violate some law such as the prohibition against killing humans, or committing mayhem on their corpses.
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NormanS
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San Jose, CA
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| reply to MrPeach
said by MrPeach :
Run Peer Guardian 2. I received 2 of those notices then started running PG2 and haven't gotten another since.
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I love "post hoc, ergo propter hoc" logic!
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jbob
Reach Out and Touch Someone
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join:2004-04-26
Little Rock, AR
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·AT&T Southwest
| reply to NormanS
said by NormanS :said by K Patterson :said by Maarvin :It is legal to download. And where does this appear in the law? It is just as illegal as sharing. Just a lot harder to catch you at it. I have never been able to find the law which explicitly makes downloading illegal. I've always assumed it is like the law against cannibalism; there is no such law. You can legally eat human meat as long as you don't violate some law such as the prohibition against killing humans, or committing mayhem on their corpses. I tend to agree with that. It is obvious the RIAA only seems to go after those that have limited knowledge of what is going on with their P2P software. The term download has become the buzzword for the industry even though the actual downloading is probably not the crime. The crime is providing your downloads to others called Distribution. The assumption is that if you are downloading it(a song for instance) then you by default must by uploading it too which is not always the case.
The differences here are between Criminal law and Civil law in regards to theft by possession/receiving. In other words we don't care how you got, just don't provide it to anyone else. |
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NetFixer
Freedom is NOT Free
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join:2004-06-24
Murfreesboro, TN
 ·Vonage
·AT&T Southeast
 ·Cingular Wireless
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| reply to eric87m
There is really no need for speculation regarding U.S. copyright law, just go to the horse's mouth and read it for yourself. You can download/view a PDF file of the entire contents of Title 17 related to U.S. copyright law, or view individual chapters in PDF or HTML format.
U.S. Copyright Office - Copyright Law of the United States
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