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Re: Speed is bad again in WNY (2:45pm)
Most people will not bitch when they get a burnt hamburger at the restaurant. Most people wont complain when they are getting screwed over in fear of conflict. |
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1 edit | If you're getting within 20% of the "advertised speeds", the ISP has done their job, based on typical TCP/IP overhead and the shared bandwidth nature of all consumer level Internet connectivity. You can bitch and moan all you want, it isn't going to change anything.
To the best of my knowledge, Adelphia was the last cable ISP that overprovisioned the modem configuration.
If you want to continue this, do it in the Rants, Raves and Praise forum, please.
If what you really want is dedicated bandwidth, pony up the big bucks for a dedicated data circuit.
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Re: Speed is bad again in WNY (2:45pm)
"To the best of my knowledge, Adelphia was the last cable ISP that overprovisioned the modem configuration."
Verizon DSL over provision's to compensate for overhead also.
At this point the topic has been beaten into submission and I will finish my comment with this post.
My gripe is that I was an Adelphia customer transitioned to Time Warner. My cost of service has remained the same and my level of service (bandwidth) has been reduce by 20%. I have experienced weekly outages over the last five weeks including one last night The network reliability from Adelphia was first rate and I congratulate the engineers and technicians of Adelphia for a job well done. Time Warner customers in this area are receiving the lowest level of service on the entire Time Warner network. I've heard comments that service will improve in WNY in the future, hopefully we can all look forward to that. No amount of "cheer leading" by forum members (time warner employees) will sway my opinion.
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| said by hwirt  :"To the best of my knowledge, Adelphia was the last cable ISP that overprovisioned the modem configuration." Verizon DSL over provision's to compensate for overhead also. When did Verizon DSL become a cable ISP ??
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said by hwirt :"To the best of my knowledge, Adelphia was the last cable ISP that overprovisioned the modem configuration." Verizon DSL over provision's to compensate for overhead also. Which was why dbmaven said "cable company"
Verizon advertise "up to 3 mb" but fail to mention the distance you need to be from the CO.
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niagara_man1
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| oh yeah what ever .... when you enter your zip code it only shows what is offered. My zip code displays 1.5 megs ... up to 1.5 megs. If I enter a Zip code and address down where the CO is located it says up to 3 megs.
So they attempt to give what you can get ! |
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| Note that it still says "up to...".
Did you read the fine print??
said by Verizon DSL Site :
*Speed comparison based upon performance with a 56.6 Kbps modem. Actual speed may vary. Actual throughput speed will vary based on network and Internet congestion among other factors.
Verizon reminds you to always download legally.
Verizon High Speed Internet is provided by Verizon Online. $14.99/mo. rate available for new residential customers ordering 768 Kbps service. $19.99/mo. promotional pricing available to all new customers ordering up to 3.0 Mbps service online for first six months only. $29.99 monthly rate applies for months 7 -12. One-year commitment required. If service is cancelled between months 2 and 12, a $79 early termination fee applies. Beginning month 13, monthly rate will increase to the then-current 768 Kbps annual contract (w/renewal) or month-to-month rate. A $19.99 shipping and activation charge will apply to each order. Additional surcharges, taxes, and other fees apply. These include, but are not limited to, a tax recovery fee (where applicable). Service provisioned will be up to 768 Kbps, 1.5 Mbps, or 3.0 Mbps based on Verizon line qualification requirements and package selected. Verizon residential local service may be required. Service not available in all areas or on all telephone lines and subject to final confirmation of services by Verizon. 30-day money back guarantee applies to offers. If you fail to return the equipment, an equipment fee will apply. Minimum system requirements apply. Acceptance of Verizon Online Terms of Service is required. Actual throughput speed will vary. Speed and uninterrupted use of the service are not guaranteed. Home networking requires purchase of a wireless router and may require wireless adaptors and wi-fi cards sold separately. Not all Verizon Yahoo! and MSN features available with Macintosh®. Equipment is a new or fully inspected, tested and warranted return unit. Offer subject to change without notice. Cannot be combined with other discounts or promotions. Other terms and conditions apply. Valid through 06/30/07. © 2007 Verizon. All Rights Reserved.
Point 1: every ISP has either these exact same disclaimers (the BOLDED statements above), or words to that effect.
Point 2: now that Adelphia no longer exists, all US based cable ISPs provision the modems for the package offered. No one is over-provisioning.
Conclusion: it's an industry standard, it's consistent, and it is NOT false advertising.
I get pissed when my service degrades by more than half, just like anybody else. But when it does, I deal with the real problem.
You don't have to like the fact that RR doesn't over-provision like Adelphia did. But screaming about it here, or anywhere else, is going to get you - exactly - nowhere.
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| Its interesting the same "up too" terminology is used for Fios and the same fine print |
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niagara_man1
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Niagara Falls, NY | funny but at least they offer a 5 meg upload for under 200 |
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