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Re: I call bullshit
Well you have to consider this. The FCC "sold" the rights to those frequencies to the cell companies. Where did they get the right to sell the airspace over your house and mine? Because they are the government.
Now you or I trying to collect $$ from a cell company for our air space, sure, that won't fly. But it's because we don't own the airspace, the US Government does.
But an Indian Reservation IS a separate country under the law, so I could see SOME merit in this. It's no different than France selling spectrum, and then England wanting a cut for the signals traveling over England.
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fiberguy
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| The injins may be sovereign nations but they are a small "incident" from loosing their nations.
Treatys? In today's era, they're simple pieces of paper which can be run through a shredder.
IN MY OPINION, the indian sovereign nation is just a symbolic thing any more. I KNOW they are sovereign nations but like I said.. symbolic at best.
In the U.S., for example, that could be changed pretty quick.
- Cut them off from the U.S. They don't want the signals? cut them off! Place embargos on them, etc etc. Let them feast from the land.
- They can be starved off in many ways such as they were doing here in MN when the indians tried to flex their muscles.
Largely, we still, as the daddy nations, tell them what they can and can't do anyway. If they were truly sovereign, then why do WE regulate their gambling activity?
Last time I checked, the Indians didn't really have an army.. hell, in SD until recently, it was legal to shoot or kill Indians in groups of 5 or more as it was an old law having to do with a hostile attack.
This whole story is funny.
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said by Camelot One  :It's no different than France selling spectrum, and then England wanting a cut for the signals traveling over England. Given that radio frequencies are generally "line of site" and England is pretty much over the horizon from France, this isn't a terribly valid comparison.
At any rate...
If the Indians want a cut, do it by hosting repeaters. Or, if they want to force the issue, set up interference generators on their territories and turn their lands into cell black holes. If it's important enough, the carriers will try to cut a deal.
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why don't you just say what you're thinking: kill the indians. they interfere with making money. there. is it that difficult to voice what you believe? rather than dancing around it with subtle and not so subtle threats. |
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said by Camelot One :But an Indian Reservation IS a separate country under the law, so I could see SOME merit in this. It's no different than France selling spectrum, and then England wanting a cut for the signals traveling over England. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
If they want to collect off of wireless / cellular spectrum, tune, and block off that area. Require them have their own country code, border patrol, currency, etc. |
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fiberguy
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Wow! While you were busy shoving words in my mouth that I didn't mean, it seems that what's on your mind is killing the Indians.
I didn't think that at all.. what I did say, and said it pretty clearly was that their alleged country is symbolic. Like anything else, things can change. The U.S. could at any time take the land from them..
Very simple.. land is fought for, won, and taken all the time. The world's landscape has change much over time. Israel, the continent of Africa, the U.S., etc. etc. Borders change, people loose land.. it's the history of the world. Mexicans are still claiming that the South West U.S. belongs to them, that the U.S. took it unfairly. So?? Too bad. We battled, they lost.. it's ours.
It's life, and it's how things work like it or not. I know there are plenty of bleeding hearts that think we are bullies and need give back what we took.. those same people hate this country, and like Israel, probably shouldn't exist in the way we do today. (Those types can first give up their land and then get lost)
The only way to set things straight is to bring the world back to day one and reset the land to what the cooks of the world think it was.
My post was about the land, not the people.
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| said by fiberguy :Wow! While you were busy shoving words in my mouth that I didn't mean, it seems that what's on your mind is killing the Indians. I didn't think that at all.. what I did say, and said it pretty clearly was that their alleged country is symbolic. Like anything else, things can change. The U.S. could at any time take the land from them.. Very simple.. land is fought for, won, and taken all the time. The world's landscape has change much over time. Israel, the continent of Africa, the U.S., etc. etc. Borders change, people loose land.. it's the history of the world. Mexicans are still claiming that the South West U.S. belongs to them, that the U.S. took it unfairly. So?? Too bad. We battled, they lost.. it's ours. It's life, and it's how things work like it or not. I know there are plenty of bleeding hearts that think we are bullies and need give back what we took.. those same people hate this country, and like Israel, probably shouldn't exist in the way we do today. (Those types can first give up their land and then get lost) The only way to set things straight is to bring the world back to day one and reset the land to what the cooks of the world think it was. My post was about the land, not the people. The Indians messed up , they let the white men come ashore on their land. Every square in of the us belongs to the Indians. They should have killed every one of them when they came off the ship.   |
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said by morbo :why don't you just say what you're thinking: kill the indians. they interfere with making money. there. is it that difficult to voice what you believe? rather than dancing around it with subtle and not so subtle threats. sounds good
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Re: I call bullshit
said by fiberguy :The injins may be sovereign nations but they are a small "incident" from loosing their nations. That is pretty racist!
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fiberguy
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So with your thinking, maybe the muslims should kill all the Jews in Israel? The Mexicans should kill all the "white men" in the south west U.S.? With your thinking, maybe the whole world should kill each other.
It's survival of the fittest in this world.
And, you may want to do your fact finding, ... Indians were not the first people to settle on what is now called the United States.
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said by fiberguy :The injins may be sovereign nations but they are a small "incident" from loosing their nations. Wow, you're RIGHT!
Just imagine if the redskin savage heathens loosed their nation. Why, there would be whiskey bottles and teepees all over the place. No white womens would be safe from the ravaging hordes of loose "injins" full of fire-water!
Oh, wait a second, you meant "losing". See, they aren't the same word, you know. They mean very different things.
Now your comment makes more sense.
It's still a bigoted rant from an ignorant racist, but at least it makes sense.
I think this "air-wave money grab" idea is the second stupidest thing I've heard all week.
Fiberguy's prejudiced Klan-rant is obviously in first place.
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james
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Oh yeah, who was it then? The Norse/Vikings? I dare you to say that it was them, seriously. Say it was them so everyone can see how intelligent you are. |
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fiberguy
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| I hear a lot of blabbing but nothing worth responding two.
Wow! Twice in the same thread has someone tried to put words in my mouth!
I didn't know I was on Comedy Central's website!
Grow up, little boy.
said by james :Say it was them so everyone can see how intelligent you are. I don't know about that, but I think you just did a great job showing your own lack of intelligence...
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