chakey
Premium
join:2004-06-14
Gladstone, NJ
clubs:
 ·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | reply to swhitney2003
Re: additional computers
When I spoke to the Verizon rep yesterday, he said that the additional $75 per computer would really only be worth it if you wanted the installer to run cat5e cables and outlets to your computer. Definitely not worth it otherwise!
The install includes getting a primary computer up and running. If you are just pressing the power button on a wireless laptop, you won't need help! |
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Raptor
Not a Dumptruck
join:2001-10-21
London, ON
 ·Rogers Hi-Speed
 ·Bell Sympatico
| If that's the case, then it could be worth it if you want to wire and install jacks on say a top floor (assuming the Fios hardware is say in the basement) if you're not into a wireless setup. A bit steep though, but could be nice to get the professional wiring if you aren't a DIY'er. Drop that down to $20 a pop and you might get a few more bites.
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cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27
·Verizon FIOS
| said by Raptor  : A bit steep though, but could be nice to get the professional wiring if you aren't a DIY'er. Drop that down to $20 a pop and you might get a few more bites. Steep? I'm afraid you aren't informed that ethernet drops are $100/node. $75 is damn cheap for running 20-30' of cat5e. Even if it takes only one hour. I'm sure they don't place a nice Leviton box, or mount a switch for you. And I'm sure most houses are not easy to run wire for, else it would be done by the owner. |
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Raptor
Not a Dumptruck
join:2001-10-21
London, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
·Bell Sympatico
| said by cableties :...ethernet drops are $100/node. $75 is damn cheap for running 20-30' of cat5e. Even if it takes only one hour.... Please inform, what makes it so expensive? Seriously, I don't get it and would appreciate the info.
Surely it's not the cable? Are you saying it should be more expensive because of the labour (i.e. effort) involved or is it the equipment/material involved?
Besides, regardless, I still think it's steep since you're just signing up for their service, so they're about to lock you in (essentially) to their service. That's generally why these kinds of installs are free or low-balled, no?
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
·Verizon FIOS
| If you've ever hired an electrician, who does basically the exact same thing (granted he needs to be more familiar with current electrical code) you'd know that $65/hr is an average rate for labor. You'd also be aware that they will almost NEVER quote you before hand because a single drop could take 15mins, or all day depending on the age and accessibility in your house. $75's flat rate is actually pretty reasonable, though it's MUCH cheaper to do it yourself, which you should certainly attempt. |
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Raptor
Not a Dumptruck
join:2001-10-21
London, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
·Bell Sympatico
| I'll give you the cost of labour for using a certified electrician, but we're dealing with your average ISP techs no? Are these not the same caliber of guys we see at any ISP? The same guys that answer ads in the paper that say 'Do you own a drill? Do you own a ladder? Do you own a shady kidnap van? Then you can work for Comcast!'
Are the Fios techs above and beyond or something? Are they working up the poles? If they're pulling in anything close to $50+/hr I'm in the wrong field/country.
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
·Verizon FIOS
| Have you met most certified electricians. I hate to generalize, but it's not like they're a cut above the average Fios techs. In fact, you probably have to be significantly more capable to be a FIOS tech then some of the certified electricians I've had the (dis)pleasure of working with. |
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Raptor
Not a Dumptruck
join:2001-10-21
London, ON | Ha, well mostly just my Grandpa, and he is essentially MacGyver when it comes to anything electrical...
Thanks for the replies.
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bolivian
join:2007-05-01
Martinsburg, WV
| reply to Raptor
Well this guys are good and do a good job and they take their time and make good money. Most of the C5e runs are custom with krone jacks, they are the same as leviton jacks. they even cut the drywall not like the cable guy that drills hole and pulls the coax so it can hold the jack. fios tech even vacuum and clean up after them self's. |
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bolivian
join:2007-05-01
Martinsburg, WV | reply to cableties
oh yes they do put a nice jack called krone and is like the leviton jacks and most of the time they do it custom work and even vacuum your floors after they finish. They look good trust me i know |
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proletarian2
join:2007-01-08
00000
| reply to Raptor
said by Raptor :Are the Fios techs above and beyond or something? Are they working up the poles? If they're pulling in anything close to $50+/hr I'm in the wrong field/country. fios technicians are definitely a cut above the average cable technician. they are generally more experienced (many with many years of phone company experience working the line and more).
And most do make in the $30 range (add significantly more when the company calculates the cost to employ with benefits and more) and I think $75 is definitely a fair charge for work that doesn't create any ongoing revenue for them. |
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Lightguy
@geusnet.net | reply to Raptor
Actually there are quite a few electricians and ex-pole climbers that do install this stuff and believe me a $75 flat fee is more than fair for a second or third cat5 run. |
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