Re: additional computers in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18445920 en Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:26:41 EDT Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:26:41 EDT Re: additional computers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18451211 anon : Actually there are quite a few electricians and ex-pole climbers that do install this stuff and believe me a $75 flat fee is more than fair for a second or third cat5 run.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18451211 Tue, 05 Jun 2007 03:07:24 EDT Re: additional computers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18450573 proletarian :
said by Raptor See Profile :

Are the Fios techs above and beyond or something? Are they working up the poles? If they're pulling in anything close to $50+/hr I'm in the wrong field/country.
fios technicians are definitely a cut above the average cable technician. they are generally more experienced (many with many years of phone company experience working the line and more).

And most do make in the $30 range (add significantly more when the company calculates the cost to employ with benefits and more) and I think $75 is definitely a fair charge for work that doesn't create any ongoing revenue for them. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18450573 Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:36:08 EDT Re: additional computers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18448811 bolivian : oh yes they do put a nice jack called krone and is like the leviton jacks and most of the time they do it custom work and even vacuum your floors after they finish. They look good trust me i know ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18448811 Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:46:20 EDT Re: additional computers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18448781 bolivian : Well this guys are good and do a good job and they take their time and make good money. Most of the C5e runs are custom with krone jacks, they are the same as leviton jacks. they even cut the drywall not like the cable guy that drills hole and pulls the coax so it can hold the jack. fios tech even vacuum and clean up after them self's. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18448781 Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:42:16 EDT Re: additional computers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18447324 Raptor : Ha, well mostly just my Grandpa, and he is essentially MacGyver when it comes to anything electrical...

Thanks for the replies.
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....where's my fiber?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18447324 Mon, 04 Jun 2007 14:42:54 EDT Re: additional computers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18447239 Ahrenl : Have you met most certified electricians. I hate to generalize, but it's not like they're a cut above the average Fios techs. In fact, you probably have to be significantly more capable to be a FIOS tech then some of the certified electricians I've had the (dis)pleasure of working with. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18447239 Mon, 04 Jun 2007 14:23:12 EDT Re: additional computers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18447121 Raptor : I'll give you the cost of labour for using a certified electrician, but we're dealing with your average ISP techs no? Are these not the same caliber of guys we see at any ISP? The same guys that answer ads in the paper that say 'Do you own a drill? Do you own a ladder? Do you own a shady kidnap van? Then you can work for Comcast!'

Are the Fios techs above and beyond or something? Are they working up the poles? If they're pulling in anything close to $50+/hr I'm in the wrong field/country.
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....where's my fiber?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18447121 Mon, 04 Jun 2007 13:59:07 EDT Re: additional computers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18447024 Ahrenl : If you've ever hired an electrician, who does basically the exact same thing (granted he needs to be more familiar with current electrical code) you'd know that $65/hr is an average rate for labor. You'd also be aware that they will almost NEVER quote you before hand because a single drop could take 15mins, or all day depending on the age and accessibility in your house. $75's flat rate is actually pretty reasonable, though it's MUCH cheaper to do it yourself, which you should certainly attempt. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18447024 Mon, 04 Jun 2007 13:41:42 EDT Re: additional computers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18446979 Raptor :
said by cableties See Profile :

...ethernet drops are $100/node. $75 is damn cheap for running 20-30' of cat5e. Even if it takes only one hour....
Please inform, what makes it so expensive? Seriously, I don't get it and would appreciate the info.

Surely it's not the cable? Are you saying it should be more expensive because of the labour (i.e. effort) involved or is it the equipment/material involved?

Besides, regardless, I still think it's steep since you're just signing up for their service, so they're about to lock you in (essentially) to their service. That's generally why these kinds of installs are free or low-balled, no?
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....where's my fiber?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18446979 Mon, 04 Jun 2007 13:35:16 EDT Re: additional computers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18446138 cableties :
said by Raptor See Profile :

A bit steep though, but could be nice to get the professional wiring if you aren't a DIY'er. Drop that down to $20 a pop and you might get a few more bites.
Steep? I'm afraid you aren't informed that ethernet drops are $100/node. $75 is damn cheap for running 20-30' of cat5e. Even if it takes only one hour. I'm sure they don't place a nice Leviton box, or mount a switch for you. And I'm sure most houses are not easy to run wire for, else it would be done by the owner. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18446138 Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:48:00 EDT Re: additional computers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18445920 Raptor : If that's the case, then it could be worth it if you want to wire and install jacks on say a top floor (assuming the Fios hardware is say in the basement) if you're not into a wireless setup. A bit steep though, but could be nice to get the professional wiring if you aren't a DIY'er. Drop that down to $20 a pop and you might get a few more bites.
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....where's my fiber?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18445920 Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:01:28 EDT Re: additional computers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18445838 chakey : When I spoke to the Verizon rep yesterday, he said that the additional $75 per computer would really only be worth it if you wanted the installer to run cat5e cables and outlets to your computer. Definitely not worth it otherwise!

The install includes getting a primary computer up and running. If you are just pressing the power button on a wireless laptop, you won't need help!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18445838 Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:32:11 EDT additional computers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18445780 swhitney2003 : "You will also be given the option of setting up additional computers during the initial installation for $75 each."

Does this include just pushing the power button on a Wi-Fi equipped PC/laptop? $75 seems steep to 'setup' a computer that just needs to be turned on to receive an IP address from a router (wired or wireless).

Am I missing something? Does setting up additional computers involve more than just configuring the network adapter?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18445780 Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:12:36 EDT