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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
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1 edit | reply to Cod
Re: Way to go Verizon.... Rick and I don't always see eye to eye, but at least he's offering something to the conversation. Often, people who pound out the longer messages have something to say, at least... What does posts like yours offer? Trolling & Fueling flames?
If you Like it? Read and respond... don't like it? Move on and shut up, or, start your OWN thread and leave his alone. It's the beauty of forum software...
It's only garbage because it doesn't fit into your own views and he's not here being a rah rah for your side!
EVEN IF I don't agree with what Rick has to say, he's offering substance, which is more than what some others, who complain, often don't.
Some could say your protest to his post is VERY MUCH the same "re-hashed garbage everyday" don't you think? His posts are much more fuel for thought and interesting to read than your type of posts any day.. agree with him or not, it's fuel for thought.. that's what a discussion is all about to begin with.
Get everyone in the room that agree talking and what do you have? A republican or democrat convention.. boring!
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 RickPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
1 edit | said by fiberguy:EVEN IF I don't agree with what Rick has to say, he's offering substance, which is more than what some others, who complain, often don't. And I'm sorry, but if you're not agreeing with what I have to say then you're not fully considering the substance of my posts.
Here, in Ct., and in New England as a whole, cities and towns are full of historic places from the 1600's~1700's.
This is not something you simply abandon, or that can ever be replaced. It, and the people who lived it, represent the forefathers of this country...those we all give thanks to at Thanksgiving.
In the town I mentioned previously to you, on this particular street that now exists a monstrosity of a uverse box hanging from a telephone poll..exactly one driveway away..is a cemetery with many of these settlers..dating back to the mid 1700's.
AT&T..is recklessly positioning their equipment in such historic places as that here in Ct.
Sitting literally just feet from it, is a tombstone of a revolutionary war soldier..born in 1754.
I know who that tombstone belongs to, and his history..because he also happens to be my Great, Great...Great..Great..Grandfather who was, in fact, the son of the founder of this town even. Who happened to be my Gx5 GF.
Now, in this most historic of places in this town, while viewing something as irreplaceable as that..I and others get to contend with AT&T and their Uverse service as well.
Let me ask you this..what's next? A uverse box at the foot of the lincoln memorial? How about in Mt. Vernon on Geo. Washingtons property as well?
It really is the same thing time wise, except here..there are many places that even predate THAT by 100 years.
Whether history is important to you personally or not, it is to many of us here. And, it's history that can never be replaced or duplicated. It is not about holding on to the past, it is about preserving some of those special places where our countries, and in my personal case..my ancestors, lived, worked..and died. Often times, in the name of this country.
One street away from where this box now exists, and surely..where another box will now spring up..is the hill the British came over, as they proceeded to burn the next town over.
This is the kind of area I am talking about.
And, it is important to preserve and to protect.
In addition, I'm not quite sure that some realize what it is that we're talking about when we are talking about this service. It is NOT an advanced, next generation service when compared to what is here already. Nor, is it a necessary service for the majority of people.
It is AT&T's personal desperate attempt to compete at the lowest cost possible.
Comcast is here today offering 20Mb HSI. Tell me, what is AT&T uverse in the face of that? It is EXACTLY what I have portrayed it to be. But yet, what people now need to endure, is their deciding to roll it out anyway in places like that.
Your argument comparing it to power boxes is a failed one.
Power, is a necessary thing for the majority of us. And, there is no reasonable substitute to those boxes you describe.
Even at that though, being familiar with how many are laid out in the mid west..because I lived there for many years..I ask you this. Can you imagine one of those big green boxes that usually now resides along the property line in your back yard..hanging at eye level from a telephone pole along your residential street, or, worse yet, in your front yard?
Welcome..my friend..to Uverse.
If you and others can't quite get this message, then I'm not really sure I can help you with it further.
Uverse, in so many places, simply is not an advanced..next generation service any longer. Maybe when it was first conceived, it was...but today..it's 1/3rd what is often times already out there in communities such as mine.
In the face of that..how then would you feel about a box that size hanging from a telephone pole on your street..in your historic communities?
It simply would become nothing but an unnecessary eyesore..at best..and something else..at worst.
As I've stated, I'm not anti AT&T. I'm anti Uverse..and this rollout of it. I'm against these boxes hanging off poles..devaluing, I believe..peoples property..and I'm surely against calling this a next generation service.
It's the poor mans..shareholder friendly...do something at the least cost possible..answer to benefit one company.
AT&T.
I AM FTTH friendly for several reasons. First, while it certainly involves a lot of construction, in the end, it's much more environmentally friendly I think. And second, it truly is an advanced service...and a real pathway to the future of broadband and video. And third, it's REAL competition for the cable industry. It is something that causes both providers to offer the best they can at the most reasonable cost..which ultimately benefits us all.
In my mind, AT&T Uverse is NONE of those things.
It is not community friendly, it is NOT an advanced service compared to what we have here now..and it certainly is nothing that Comcast and others are going to fear IMHO.
3 strikes..and Uverse needs to be OUT.
I realize that many who attack me here have livelihood's built around and with AT&T. But, if they're going to do that, they should attack me on substance, and not just their biased, employee related viewpoints. Really, that is the problem with Uverse. It's really all about AT&T..and not much else. It simply makes no sense at all to be building a next generation service around 30 year old copper that's half exposed in the ground, as the above Rick basher described so eloquently in his own post.
That is not something that we should see our historic cities and towns have to face..in the name of these vrads that will pop up all over the place.
And certainly, if it's going to be something..anything at all..it at least needs to be able to compete with Comcast, Cox and others. And not be 1/3rd the speeds that they offer. | | |
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| Why don't you get the power company to move the pole?Your city said it was okay years ago to put that pole there,it is a utility easement.Have you tried contacting anyone? | |
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They could have the mighty fcc claim eminent domain and dig up the grave, or even worse place the att u-verse xdsl remote terminal on top of the casket (instead of to the side)
:-P
All for a lousy 100mbit top potential speed.
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 en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to LightSpan
I agree... if this areas is historic and quaint, what is a wooden utility pole (assuming with power / telco / cable lines) running from it ?
I'm surprised that the historic cities don't foot the bill to have all their poles buried to keep property values up.
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