NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to dslwanter
Re: Oh Boy, ads are now here
said by dslwanter  :Well then AT&T could also take a stand and say piss on the ads or we're going elsewhere. You don't think AT&T is getting some revenue from those ads? AT&T is the instigator of the ads, not Yahoo!. In fact, Yahoo! Mail Plus, their $19.99 per year premium service, has no ads.
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to wings10
said by wings10 :You don't think yahoo gets more money from AT&T depending on how many subscribers there are? Also If Yahoo charges clients to advertise would they not be able to charge them even more to place an ad if they have even more subscribers? Yahoo is partnered with AT&T on providing DSL Service. It is called AT&T/Yahoo DSL. So don't fool yourself. Yahoo is making money on this. Both from advertisers and from AT&T. AT&T is contracting with Yahoo! to provide the Yahoo! services. Of course Yahoo! is making money off of the contract. Coca Cola® makes money off of every cup of Coke® sold by McDonalds. So what?
The point is, Yahoo! has no say in how the AT&T DSL infrastructure is managed.
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Norman
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whymeintrouble
Premium
join:2001-06-20
Woodridge, IL | reply to Mchart
Mchart, try using a program like PopPeeper. that is what I use, and it is an excellent email client 
»poppeeper.com/ |
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scooby
Premium
join:2001-05-01
Schaumburg, IL | Download and install Adblock Plus for Firefox. Say goodbye to your Ad problems.
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JohnnyBob
join:2006-03-23
Mount Vernon, IL | I recommend the MVP HOSTS file which blocks most ads and it's easy to include others...
»www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm |
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Mchart
Super Joe
join:2004-01-21
Gurnee, IL
·AT&T Yahoo
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| I've actually known about that for a while. Only issue is just that ever increasing amount of ad providers, and address's. |
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Penguins
Have You Played Atari Today?
join:2001-12-01
Cleveland, OH | reply to Mchart
Get Adblock + Filterset-G updater and you will never see an advertisement on any site, ever.
Both are free, have no spyware and work perfectly.
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mtmra70
Premium
join:2001-03-22
Portage, MI
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to charpaula
said by charpaula :My email to abuse@sbcglobal.net received the following response Thank you for contacting AT&T Internet Abuse. We apologize for the inconvenience. The advertising is a needed step towards providing world class service at an affordable price. This cracks me up. I have yet to receive 'world class service' from anyone claiming world class service. Heck, some internal groups at work claim 'world class service' and they dont.
The only time I have received 'world class service' is from a place/buisness that did not claim such standards. |
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charpaula
join:2005-02-19
Morris, IL
| reply to Mchart
ISP email so 1999? Maybe if the email being provided was a 1999 version. The webbased email is feature rich and available wherever I go without my having to lug my laptop around
I would not use the basic Yahoo or MSN emails due to their ads. Gmail also has ads, but they are texted based without flashing geeky lights and what not that give me a migraine
DSL service comes with Premium Yahoo email - a non-advertising stand alone package available from Yahoo for $19.95. The Premium package included with my DSL service
Instead AT&T has changed my Premium Yahoo email - without changing my TOS or features - to an adbased piece of garbage
As a result - I've installed the AdBlockPlus Firefox plugin I would have preferred not to as I believe free websites have a right to monetize... Notice I said FREE websites
Can't wait for the next installment of the continuing saga of AT&T Yahoo DSL... For all of you using Outlook or some other email client to access your AT&T Yahoo mail----can advertising appended to all incoming and outgoing mail be far behind??? |
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| said by charpaula :For all of you using Outlook or some other email client to access your AT&T Yahoo mail----can advertising appended to all incoming and outgoing mail be far behind??? That would violate RFC 2821...
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schja01
I need to get a life.
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-27
Morton Grove, IL
clubs:  
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T Midwest
2 edits | said by NormanS :said by charpaula :For all of you using Outlook or some other email client to access your AT&T Yahoo mail----can advertising appended to all incoming and outgoing mail be far behind??? That would violate RFC 2821... I think that might also cause issues with "Signed" email. PGP or otherwise. Signing verifies the integrity of the message in addition to certifying the signer is valid. If ATT "adds" stuff to an email message itself it would show as being "tampered with". |
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wings10
I Am Legend
Premium
join:2004-06-09
South Elgin, IL | reply to Mchart
Is everyone suppose to see these ads now? I checked and have not seen any.
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Old_Grouch
Don't just sit there silly DO something
Premium
join:2004-05-26
Greenwood, IN
clubs: | my sense is that they are spreading.
They just turned on for me last night 'tween 1:00 and 8:00 a.m.
Be patient. |
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drmorley
Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-20
Park Ridge, IL
clubs:
| reply to charpaula
said by charpaula :ISP email so 1999? Maybe if the email being provided was a 1999 version. The webbased email is feature rich and available wherever I go without my having to lug my laptop around Or with all the money you're saving getting DSL @ 19.95/month you could invest an additional $5/month and pay for a hosting service without ads.
Back in '99 DSL was $50/month and the speeds were 768/128. The speeds keep going up on the price keeps going down. If they need to use ads to subsidize their service so be it.
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digitalfreak
join:2005-12-09
49533
3 edits | reply to Old_Grouch
Yep, they just showed up for me this morning. I use Firefox/Adblock Plus to block them, but the blank space where they were still takes up a large chunk of screen real estate. I'm also seeing links now for yahoo shopping, yahoo autos, etc. on the left pane where the folders are. Absolute BS!
Between this crap and the announcement that AT&T intends to start spying on their customers for the RIAA/MPAA, I'm starting to consider other options for Internet access. It's really too bad to, since I've had next to no problems with my DSL service. |
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dslwanter
Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH
Premium
join:2002-12-16
Lowellville, OH
·Armstrong Zoom In..
·AT&T Midwest
| said by digitalfreak :Between this crap and the announcement that AT&T intends to start spying on their customers for the RIAA/MPAA, I'm starting to consider other options for Internet access. It's really too bad to, since I've had next to no problems with my DSL service. I feel you bro! As if my sync loss with strong thunderstorms wasn't enough now ads in email. Give me a break. This is to be expected with free services such as hotmail but not with PAID internet service. I don't care if it's $14.99 a month or $59.99 a month, if I'm paying, the hell with the ads, they are annoying. I'd rather my DSL bill go up $10 a month than put up with ads. If I ever get another option out this way, I may consider switching. As of right now there's only 2 things I like about AT&T, 1) AT&T Direct and 2) PPPoE stability.
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nwrickert
sand groper
Premium,MVM
join:2004-09-04
Geneva, IL
·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T Midwest
| When I first got DSL (at $49.99 per month), the disk allowance for email was small (5 or 10 Meg, as I recall), and there was no webmail and no spam filtering.
You can avoid the ads by using a POP3 client and avoiding the webmail interface. You still pay less, and you still have a lot more disk space for email.
I really see this thread as much ado about nothing. When SBC originally made a deal with Yahoo, it was obvious that part of the deal was that Yahoo would get to use our eyeballs for its own profits. All that is happening now is that they are changing the way they are using our eyeballs.
I do hope that Yahoo is getting paid by the click. Since I won't ever click on these ads, they won't generate any income from me.
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koma3504
Advocate
Premium
join:2004-06-22
North Richland Hills, TX | reply to Mchart
Re: Oh Boy, ads are now here on ATT/Yahoo
I don't see adds must be in the preferances somewhere. |
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| said by koma3504 : I don't see adds must be in the preferances somewhere. Not in the preferences on the web site. But, if you are running ad blockers in conjunction with your browser, and even MSIE7 now has some ad blocker capability, you won't see many, or even any ads.
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koma3504
Advocate
Premium
join:2004-06-22
North Richland Hills, TX | Im not running any add blockers |
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