Karl Bode
News Guy
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PC gaming Tech
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So say your ISP profits from selling your clickstream data, befuddling your DNS service and now charging a spam filter bypass tax -- at what point do you as a consumer see a price reduction? |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·Covad Wireless
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June 7th, @09:19AM
| When you're Comcast and raise the price $14 then put a line item under it saying you get a $14 bundling discount for having their crappy CATV service.
That is unless you actually expect someones bill to go DOWN after a discount. If that is the case you're out of luck.
When you're Comcast and raise the price $14 then put a line item under it saying you get a $14 bundling discount for having their crappy CATV service.
That is unless you actually expect someones bill to go DOWN after a discount. If that is the case you're out of luck.
All of these major ISPs are penny pinching bloodsucking whores and Verizon is among the worst of them.
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
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said by Karl Bode  :at what point do you as a consumer see a price reduction? The moment you cancel, which is not an option for many. Chalk this up as another reason that we need more competition in the broadband sector. |
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verolom
join:2002-03-23
Eatontown, NJ | reply to Karl Bode
No, see, Verizon and other ISPs implementing this "spam filtering" service will likely ADD a fee to your bill for providing it.
Why can't we just get a pipe provider? Why, oh why? |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL | reply to Karl Bode
You might already be getting that price reduction by not being charged more to build out new infrastructure and the increased service offerings. |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
Premium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | Except that FiOS subscribers have already gotten an 11% price increase since the deployments started.
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Jason Levine
Premium
join:2001-07-13
Albany, NY
| reply to Karl Bode
They'll just claim that the next price increase won't be quite as steep as it would have been.
"Sure we're raising all of our prices by $10 a month, but if we didn't do all of these things we would have raised it by $20 a month. See how it's reduced your bill? On an unrelated note, bills will now include a $6.72 Federal Jabberwocky Excise Tax and a $3.28 Malarky Generator Fee." |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL
·Mediacom
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Ok, so how much are you spending for your 30/2 FiOS service compared to what you paid for 1.5/256 DSL three years ago? Advancement isn't free, easy, or fast. If you don't want the service providers making deals with content providers, then be ready to see that 11% price increase move to a value much more substantial. |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Host:
Road Runner
PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
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June 8th, @10:39AM
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Advancement isn't free, easy, or fast.
I'm sorry, who's getting broadband for free?
Customers pay plenty for incumbent broadband. Verizon makes plenty off of landline services and over time has received countless subsidies.
Systems like the Goodmail are enacted due to a need to impress investors with improved quarter by quarter results, not out of a need for fiscal survival. These incumbent operators are doing just fine, and the idea that consumers who pay plenty each month (and in many non-competitive markets increasingly get less -- no newsgroups, traffic shaping, less functional DNS, less privacy) are "lucky" they aren't paying more is just boardroom think.... |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL
·Mediacom
| said by Karl Bode :quote:
Advancement isn't free, easy, or fast.
I'm sorry, who's getting broadband for free? I didn't say broadband, I said advancement  said by Karl Bode :Systems like the Goodmail are enacted due to a need to impress investors with improved quarter by quarter results, not out of a need for fiscal survival. These incumbent operators are doing just fine, and the idea that consumers who pay plenty each month (and in many non-competitive markets increasingly get less -- no newsgroups, traffic shaping, less functional DNS, less privacy) are "lucky" they aren't paying more is just boardroom think.... I guess I'm a boardroom kinda guy. In today's market driven world, fiscal survival is improved quarter by quarter results. If you don't like it, more and more companies will need to be taken private....but then you run the risk of corporate raiders shredding the company and selling it for scrap. |
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs: | So when your ISP screws you in the bum you shrug it off knowing it's for their investor's own good? Last I checked, we are the customer, and we are the ones who are suppose to be served. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL
·Mediacom
| said by Maxo :So when your ISP screws you in the bum you shrug it off knowing it's for their investor's own good? No, if I get "screwed in the bum" I make a decision to no longer financially support (i.e. use the competitor) the screwer. |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southwest
| said by openbox9 :No, if I get "screwed in the bum" I make a decision to no longer financially support (i.e. use the competitor) the screwer. Oh you switch to the other DSL providers or Cable providers or...
... Wait. What other providers?
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL
·Mediacom
| If I'm dissatisfied with my cableco, I'll switch to my telco. If I'm dissatisfied with my telco, I'll switch to various combinations of WISPs, VoIP providers, sat tv, 3G cellular providers, or....wait for it, if I'm screwed hard enough by all of them, I'll do my own personal cost/benefits analysis and may very well choose to live without some services. |
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