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Karl Bode
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Advancement isn't free, easy, or fast.
I'm sorry, who's getting broadband for free?

Customers pay plenty for incumbent broadband. Verizon makes plenty off of landline services and over time has received countless subsidies.

Systems like the Goodmail are enacted due to a need to impress investors with improved quarter by quarter results, not out of a need for fiscal survival. These incumbent operators are doing just fine, and the idea that consumers who pay plenty each month (and in many non-competitive markets increasingly get less -- no newsgroups, traffic shaping, less functional DNS, less privacy) are "lucky" they aren't paying more is just boardroom think....

openbox9

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said by Karl Bode:

quote:
Advancement isn't free, easy, or fast.
I'm sorry, who's getting broadband for free?
I didn't say broadband, I said advancement
said by Karl Bode:

Systems like the Goodmail are enacted due to a need to impress investors with improved quarter by quarter results, not out of a need for fiscal survival. These incumbent operators are doing just fine, and the idea that consumers who pay plenty each month (and in many non-competitive markets increasingly get less -- no newsgroups, traffic shaping, less functional DNS, less privacy) are "lucky" they aren't paying more is just boardroom think....
I guess I'm a boardroom kinda guy. In today's market driven world, fiscal survival is improved quarter by quarter results. If you don't like it, more and more companies will need to be taken private....but then you run the risk of corporate raiders shredding the company and selling it for scrap.


Maxo
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So when your ISP screws you in the bum you shrug it off knowing it's for their investor's own good? Last I checked, we are the customer, and we are the ones who are suppose to be served.


openbox9

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said by Maxo:

So when your ISP screws you in the bum you shrug it off knowing it's for their investor's own good?
No, if I get "screwed in the bum" I make a decision to no longer financially support (i.e. use the competitor) the screwer.


KrK
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said by openbox9:

No, if I get "screwed in the bum" I make a decision to no longer financially support (i.e. use the competitor) the screwer.
Oh you switch to the other DSL providers or Cable providers or...

... Wait. What other providers?
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openbox9

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If I'm dissatisfied with my cableco, I'll switch to my telco. If I'm dissatisfied with my telco, I'll switch to various combinations of WISPs, VoIP providers, sat tv, 3G cellular providers, or....wait for it, if I'm screwed hard enough by all of them, I'll do my own personal cost/benefits analysis and may very well choose to live without some services.


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