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kavuser22

join:2004-09-23
Chesapeake, VA
reply to NY22
Re: Security Question

I think that is ridiculous "logic'. What about your machine being compromised and used as a bot or worse? You could help spread malware and spam.... and for what?



NY22

@mindspring.com

Well the point I'm attempting to make is that if your machine gets attacked by anything such as what you said: "...being compromised and used as a bot or worse?..." you could just put back the backup image of when the computer had no infections on it to begin with. With that said, the bot would not exist. You're restoring what was in the past over what is current in the present when you use a image backup of your drive to restore to an earlier time and I don't mean System Restore from Microsoft. Why would you bother running Anti-Virus software when all it does is slow your machine down. The ammount of time it takes to scan for viruses and find the ones that are on the system within let's say an average of 30 minutes or more time worth of scanning, I could have a working machine again in less than 8 minutes from a drive image I had backed up of the entire HDD. Why spend loads of money on security software when it's not something you need and more of just something you'll buy because everyone else uses it or because the people who make it tell you that "it's good to use" or "it won't do this to your machine or won't slow you down". I mean seriously, what happend to just turning on a computer, using it and shutting it down. Has time really changed that much or have people lost their minds and are bringing in millions of dollars to waste on this software? Microsoft Updates, OK that I can take, updates can be good (or bad for some), that I'll accept but all this Firewalling and everything, this is ridiculous.

RJ44

join:2001-10-19
Atlanta, GA

said by NY22 :

I mean seriously, what happend to just turning on a computer, using it and shutting it down. Has time really changed that much or have people lost their minds
I know this is pointless, but I just gotta do it.

What happened to just turning on a computer, using it and shutting it down? Nothing. It's still the same bad idea it's always been. I was a little late to the personal computer game, buying my first system in 1988. Guess what? The first software I installed on it was antivirus. Even in 1988 anyone who knew anything about computers took steps to protect themselves and their systems.

Nothing has changed.


javaMan
Premium,MVM
join:2002-07-15
San Luis Obispo, CA


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June 8th, @02:44PM

said by RJ44 See Profile :

said by NY22 :

I mean seriously, what happend to just turning on a computer, using it and shutting it down. Has time really changed that much or have people lost their minds
I know this is pointless, but I just gotta do it.

What happened to just turning on a computer, using it and shutting it down? Nothing. It's still the same bad idea it's always been. I was a little late to the personal computer game, buying my first system in 1988. Guess what? The first software I installed on it was antivirus. Even in 1988 anyone who knew anything about computers took steps to protect themselves and their systems.

Nothing has changed.
Well, it has changed in some respects. I used McAfee when it was free software to download from a BBS I logged on to with my 2400 baud modem. However, I only needed to use it occasionally to check floppy disks (5 1/4") I got from others. But in those days personal computers were essentially stand alone entities. That is still possible, just disconnect the cable, otherwise you better have some kind of way to limit access by everyone you're connected to on the network.
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Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness. . . Isa. 5:20

RJ44

join:2001-10-19
Atlanta, GA

said by javaMan See Profile :

Well, it has changed in some respects...However, I only needed to use it occasionally to check floppy disks (5 1/4") I got from others. But in those days personal computers were essentially stand alone entities.
I don't see that as a change, really. I know in those days the main threat was using an infected floppy, but that was also the main way files were transferred from PC to PC.

The point is, you needed to protect your machine from viruses then, and you do now. Anyone who thinks this is something new either wasn't around 15-20 years ago or was clueless then, too
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