Re: Interesting... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18471742 en Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:35:53 EDT Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:35:53 EDT Re: Interesting... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18480979 buckingham : Yea, and VoIP is not a "high bandwidth" application...quite the contrary. That one sounds more like a competitive play to me...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18480979 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:58:33 EDT Re: Interesting... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18473817 swhx7 :
said by ph03n1x See Profile :

For those of us who are bandwith "hogs" and are tech savvy this is meaningless. With the right port forwarding settings in your router, this is easily worked around. The only people that will be affected are the ones who arent savvy enough to adjust said settings.

Are you counting yourself among "tech savvy" people? Current shaping tech is not defeated by merely changing ports. It also looks at protocol signatures in the packets, traffic patterns and other factors.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18473817 Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:18:45 EDT Re: Interesting... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18472432 ph03n1x : For those of us who are bandwith "hogs" and are tech savvy this is meaningless. With the right port forwarding settings in your router, this is easily worked around. The only people that will be affected are the ones who arent savvy enough to adjust said settings.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18472432 Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:19:51 EDT Re: Interesting... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18471742 Raptor :
said by Skippy25 See Profile :

You may want to read what they said again.
I was only mentioning that I have seen my own torrents beat up, whereas newsgroups remain smoking fast. So as far as I can tell, for my ISP, I guess they're differentiating between torrent traffic from other data, including newsgroups.
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....where's my fiber?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18471742 Fri, 08 Jun 2007 12:36:33 EDT Re: Interesting... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18471541 Skippy25 : 'Packet shaping' technology has been implemented for newsgroup applications, regardless of the provider, and all peer-to-peer networks and certain other high bandwidth applications not necessarily limited to audio, video, and voice over IP telephony.

You may want to read what they said again. From the above it looks like they have implemented it on applications that are audio, video, and VOIP. In addition, they have left it open to anything else they may want to do it to.

Sounds like a net neturality issue to me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18471541 Fri, 08 Jun 2007 12:01:54 EDT Interesting... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18470653 Raptor : I'm slightly impressed that they chose to come out of the closet completely on this one and email subscribers--during the initial onset no less.

Packet shaping among my ISP has often been a hush hush kind of thing where they will neither deny nor confirm its usage as a whole or in any one particular area. Thankfully, the shaping has been limited to torrents thus far, and newsgroups have been unaffected.

So props to TWC on the customer heads up, but still a big gong to the technology as a whole :p
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....where's my fiber?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18470653 Fri, 08 Jun 2007 08:33:52 EDT