Re: Bad Move in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18483083 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:55:25 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:55:25 EDT Re: Bad Move http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18483083 pnh102 :
said by satellite68 See Profile :

If you think a state level model (despite whoever touts it-that's nice and theoretical) gets rolled out on a federal level in the same way, I've got some Arizona swampland to sell you...
Slaps head...

*sigh*

:huh:
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Only SHATNER is Kirk.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18483083 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:00:12 EDT Re: Bad Move http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18482966 satellite68 : oh yeah, NCLB-now there's an example of something "working". That shite never worked on any level.

If you think a state level model (despite whoever touts it-that's nice and theoretical) gets rolled out on a federal level in the same way, I've got some Arizona swampland to sell you...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18482966 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:32:59 EDT Re: Bad Move http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18481257 pnh102 :
said by satellite68 See Profile :

a federal level plan wouldn't even be the same "model" as the one here in Kentucky.
Then why is Rick Boucher, a congressman from Virginia, touting it as a model?
said by satellite68 See Profile :

what a way to trash something without knowing any details.
Where did I say anything about the success or failure of the Connect Kentucky program?

We have plenty of examples that show that simply federalizing a problem is not the same as solving it. No Child Left Behind frequently comes up as proof of this. The NCLB approach tried at the state level has actually worked, but the one-size-fits-all approach taken by the Federal government has caused nothing but grief for school systems.
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Only SHATNER is Kirk.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18481257 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:14:03 EDT Re: Bad Move http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18481229 satellite68 :
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Because of its success, ConnectKentucky is being held up as a model for a federal broadband initiative


the key word is "model". a federal level plan wouldn't even be the same "model" as the one here in Kentucky. what a way to trash something without knowing any details. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18481229 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:08:10 EDT Re: Bad Move http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18480917 Togusa : pitdingo wrote:
huh? The web was invented in the USA from funding by the US government.


No, the Internet was invented in the US with funding from the US government (DARPA, IIRC). The World Wide Web, which is what pnh102 was talking about:
The web was invented by a British guy working at a lab funded by the Swiss and French governments.

and which is only part of the Internet -- was indeed developed in Europe. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18480917 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:41:55 EDT Re: Bad Move http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18480793 anon : huh? The web was invented in the USA from funding by the US government.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18480793 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:58:04 EDT Re: Bad Move http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18480794 trisomy : Access to the web is either equally robust or those in the Old Line State will be watching it in 'Black and White' while their 'Blue Grass' neighbors will be enjoying HDTV. Ubiquitous bandwidth is to the web what the core is to the apple. ;) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18480794 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:55:40 EDT Re: Bad Move http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18480688 pnh102 :
said by trisomy See Profile :

If your postulate is correct can there ever be a www?
You're comparing apples and oranges.

The web was invented by a British guy working at a lab funded by the Swiss and French governments. There is a lot less gruntwork involved in developing a concept like the web than digging holes in the ground, running cables and installing equipment.
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Only SHATNER is Kirk.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18480688 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:27:17 EDT Re: Bad Move http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18480651 trisomy :
said by pnh102 See Profile :

Just because a program works at the state level doesn't mean it will work at the federal level. Other states should take a look at this program and see if it will work for them. Something that works in Kentucky may not necessarily work in Texas or Maine or Oregon, etc.
If your postulate is correct can there ever be a www?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18480651 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:13:13 EDT Re: Bad Move http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18480085 Piggie : Yes, I agree, politics kinda works at the local level, sorta works at the state level.

But at the Federal level it's only cooperations making laws to benefit themselves. And if a benevolent law does get passed it's usually totally unrealistic.

To paraphrase Mark Twain. "Any day Congress is in session, no man, woman or child is safe."
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| Speedstream 4200 Modem - 3m/386 plan | W98-W2KSP4-XPSP2 - All AMD | Buffalo WHR G54S with OpenWRT WR0.9 | 2 downstream switches feeding 5 total clients (no wireless)|]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18480085 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 01:51:30 EDT Re: Bad Move http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18477766 wiredaddy : Agreed, however at least with this there is some sort of model that these other states can add or take away from. Any potentially positive plan is better than what has been in place in the past. :)
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If not now, when?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18477766 Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:30:24 EDT Bad Move http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18477744 pnh102 : Just because a program works at the state level doesn't mean it will work at the federal level. Other states should take a look at this program and see if it will work for them. Something that works in Kentucky may not necessarily work in Texas or Maine or Oregon, etc.
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Only SHATNER is Kirk.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18477744 Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:25:25 EDT