Re: OPENDNS in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18485270 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:24:18 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:24:18 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18491709 phattieg : Haven't you figured out I know it's not you with the problem, and I am posting GENERAL INFO. Good GOD man, I could give a damn if you want the service or not for that matter anyhow. When I'm at work, I do my job, but when someone tells me they hate the service, good for them, because I don't care if you hate it or not. I just know what I've been doing to folks who call with the same problem, and it has fixed it everytime. Use different DNS servers if you want, thats fine, or use OpenDNS, just don't cry when it does take effect, and you have no idea what happened because you are using a different DNS. Let me rephrase that, anyone EXCEPT nixen, don't cry when it does take effect, and you have no idea what happened because you are using a different DNS. There, are you happy that I EXCLUDED YOU, or does it still bother you that I replied? You can always "ignore" me by clicking the thumb.
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SIPPhone/Gizmo # 17476200648 / PIMPNET Chatline / Ran by Asterisk & Slackware 10.1.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18491709 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:55:47 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18491065 nixen :
said by phattieg See Profile :

So you have the desktop doctor installed, and all the little goodies the CD gave you? I doubt it, because you'd be too stubborn to listen. If you have a router, or Vonage adapter, or anything that NAT's your connection at all, then you have to clear it's memory so the modem can update the DNS Suffix so you don't keep getting re-directed to it. Man, I do this all day, everyday. I have yet to find a person who keeps getting it OVER and OVER.
How can you POSSIBLY be able to help people when your comprehension skills are this freaking poor? I mean, really, how freaking stupid do you have to be that you don't notice that I'm not the one with the freaking problem? Bother to go read the thread that sparked this front-page news item. SolarPup See Profile reported continuing issues from Friday evening through Saturday, even though he (seemingly) followed the resolution instructions from other forum users. That thread was started by SolarPup See Profile. Notice that my posting handle is nixen See Profile and is not SolarPup See Profile. "Geddit" now?

Damn... If I even were considering Comcast, you've single-handedly precluded me ever wanting to be a customer. For that, I thank you. I won't have to worry about these kinds of lame-assed problems.
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said by nixen See Profile :

Ah: you must be one of those CSRs that all the surveys speak so highly of!
said by phattieg See Profile :

As I have already explained, Comcast wants to make sure you agree to the terms of service. It's a requirement for service, so you have to complete that acknowledgment first, then you will never have to see it again, unless you get a Comcast agent to push your modem again, instead of running the wizard yourself..
I seem to recall at least one poster in the Comcast thread that spawned this news article who stated that he'd agreed to it more than once during his troubles. Doesn't sound to me like a "never have to see it again" issue.
said by phattieg See Profile :

You could get all testy if you want, but I wasn't the moron who needed a modem push, and my service works, so have it your way. You could sit with no connection for all I care,
Clearly you need to work on your reading acuity. I wasn't the one who needed a modem push. I wasn't the one who's service got boned by the quality Comcast technicians. My connection does work, most likely because I don't use Comcast or their DNS.
So you have the desktop doctor installed, and all the little goodies the CD gave you? I doubt it, because you'd be too stubborn to listen. If you have a router, or Vonage adapter, or anything that NAT's your connection at all, then you have to clear it's memory so the modem can update the DNS Suffix so you don't keep getting re-directed to it. Man, I do this all day, everyday. I have yet to find a person who keeps getting it OVER and OVER. Everyone I deal with never hears from it again until they get a new modem, call us for a push, and end up back at square one. You can use your DNS server, or a different one, I could care less now, it's YOU'RE connection, do with it what you want. I was only saying that if you try tricks to get around it, they may work, for a brief while, until your modem gets it's config file removed and you're back at "walledgarden" bootfile, which means "Welcome to Comcast High Speed Internet, the quick and easy way to get online" wizard. Trust me, they have sent memo's to employee's about their plans, and you can argue all you want, it won't change YOUR ISP's decision...
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SIPPhone/Gizmo # 17476200648 / PIMPNET Chatline / Ran by Asterisk & Slackware 10.1.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18490924 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:43:14 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18488594 davidu :
said by fcisler See Profile :

It IS a hack as there is NO, read it, NO, means for authentication via DNS. In otherwords - when I request a result from OpenDNS - it is identical to YOUR request, with the exception of our IP address'.

Now...it IS a hack that they will then have THEIR DNS SERVER check a database to find MY IP to find that I OPTED OUT of their bogus domain forwarding.

You are completely off in your assumption - I don't see OpenDNS as having ANY OTHER WAY to "fix" the results than those steps posted. If you have any other inside info - please post it.....but I don't ever recall seeing ANY OTHER DNS do that, unless specifically designed to.
There's more than just your IP address. There's the query_id mux'd in there along with some other request-specific bits that make it hard to forge a reply from us. That said, this is NO different from the way any other DNS server works. UDP is stateless and that's the name of the game.

That said, we do base preferences on your src_addr. It works very very well. It's not at all a hack just because it's new to you. It was far from a quick job and it does the job well. So well in fact that others are trying to figure out how to emulate it, including BIND.

-david]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18488594 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:58:10 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18486448 anon :
said by opendnshead :

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opendns

PhishTank / typo correction / anti-porn blocking for the kiddies

'nuff said...we have a clear winner!
"'Nuff said"? Hardly. From your link:

"OpenDNS earns a portion of its revenue by displaying advertisements on a search page shown when their system cannot automatically correct a domain name typo."

Uh, no thanks.

Not getting in a pissing match with you, bro. You haven't used TreeWalk (obviously) so it's a waste of time for both of us.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18486448 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:00:50 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18488180 koitsu :
said by CUBS_FAN See Profile :

I thought 4.2.2.1 was Verizon's DNS servers. I also read that isn't it technically illegal to use another providers DNS without permission?
No. They're publicly accessible recursive nameservers. I believe GTEI (now Verizon) provides these to the public as a "best-effort" service, though I'll have to go digging to find the thread I read about it, as it's quite old...
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Making life hard for others since 1977.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18488180 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:41:31 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18487575 gwbuffalo : I use OpenDNS with TreeWalk]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18487575 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:45:40 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18487439 nixen : Ah: you must be one of those CSRs that all the surveys speak so highly of!
said by phattieg See Profile :

As I have already explained, Comcast wants to make sure you agree to the terms of service. It's a requirement for service, so you have to complete that acknowledgment first, then you will never have to see it again, unless you get a Comcast agent to push your modem again, instead of running the wizard yourself..
I seem to recall at least one poster in the Comcast thread that spawned this news article who stated that he'd agreed to it more than once during his troubles. Doesn't sound to me like a "never have to see it again" issue.
said by phattieg See Profile :

You could get all testy if you want, but I wasn't the moron who needed a modem push, and my service works, so have it your way. You could sit with no connection for all I care,
Clearly you need to work on your reading acuity. I wasn't the one who needed a modem push. I wasn't the one who's service got boned by the quality Comcast technicians. My connection does work, most likely because I don't use Comcast or their DNS.
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Everyday, thousands of new cars are delivered to their new owners with poorly-selected radio station presets.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18487439 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:20:20 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18487379 phattieg :
said by nixen See Profile :

If Comcast wanted to force everyone to use their DNS (*ugh*) and IF your network people had a freaking clue about how to manage a network, they'd simply transparently redirect port 53, donchathink? Then again, over the years, we've seen how well they do DNS that it's fairly evident what the skill levels there are.

Hell, Comcast ought to be glad of people switching to third-party DNS and/or local caching DNS servers as it reduces the demand on Comcast's crappy DNS servers (though, it's almost inevitable that this crap is a prelude to a typo redirection "service").
Well... Jump conclusions if you want, but I am just saying you would want to resolve the process it's asking you to do first, then change your DNS, because ignoring it will just make the modem get shut down, and start the process all over again. As I have already explained, Comcast wants to make sure you agree to the terms of service. It's a requirement for service, so you have to complete that acknowledgment first, then you will never have to see it again, unless you get a Comcast agent to push your modem again, instead of running the wizard yourself...

You could get all testy if you want, but I wasn't the moron who needed a modem push, and my service works, so have it your way. :uhh: You could sit with no connection for all I care, I am just giving you advice to resolve it without a hitch. I just know a thing called a "Talking Points - About the terms of service verification" memo landed in my e-mail box, and when I read it, it showed a screenshot of the issue, said it was for users who had a "modem push" or "technician requested a push", and stated that if not acknowledged by a certain deadline, it would push the modem back into a deactive status, also known as walledgarden, which leaves you at the "Welcome to Comcast High Speed Internet, the fast and easy way to get online". So whupty freegin doo to you too. :p
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SIPPhone/Gizmo # 17476200648 / PIMPNET Chatline / Ran by Asterisk & Slackware 10.1.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18487379 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:09:47 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18487328 nixen :
said by phattieg See Profile :

said by nixen See Profile :

said by rdata :

208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220

openDNS.com nothin' beats it...
Running your own, local DNS beats it.
Until they change your boot file, then you're screwed. If you do not accept the agreement, you'll be back to square one with a screwed connection. Take my word for it, seeings how I do work there and all. The purposed method is to put you back to a "walledgarden" config file, essentially cutting you off again, if you don't accept the terms. You don't have to argue with me though, just try it, and if I'm right, donate a dollar to my DSLR account, since I'm actually posting a valid reason.
If Comcast wanted to force everyone to use their DNS (*ugh*) and IF your network people had a freaking clue about how to manage a network, they'd simply transparently redirect port 53, donchathink? Then again, over the years, we've seen how well they do DNS that it's fairly evident what the skill levels there are.

Hell, Comcast ought to be glad of people switching to third-party DNS and/or local caching DNS servers as it reduces the demand on Comcast's crappy DNS servers (though, it's almost inevitable that this crap is a prelude to a typo redirection "service").
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Everyday, thousands of new cars are delivered to their new owners with poorly-selected radio station presets.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18487328 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:58:30 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18487274 CUBS_FAN : I thought 4.2.2.1 was Verizon's DNS servers. I also read that isn't it technically illegal to use another providers DNS without permission?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18487274 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:48:37 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18487222 phattieg :
said by nixen See Profile :

said by rdata :

208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220

openDNS.com nothin' beats it...
Running your own, local DNS beats it.
Until they change your boot file, then you're screwed. If you do not accept the agreement, you'll be back to square one with a screwed connection. Take my word for it, seeings how I do work there and all. The purposed method is to put you back to a "walledgarden" config file, essentially cutting you off again, if you don't accept the terms. You don't have to argue with me though, just try it, and if I'm right, donate a dollar to my DSLR account, since I'm actually posting a valid reason.
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SIPPhone/Gizmo # 17476200648 / PIMPNET Chatline / Ran by Asterisk & Slackware 10.1.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18487222 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:40:59 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18486169 nixen :
said by rdata :

208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220

openDNS.com nothin' beats it...
Running your own, local DNS beats it.
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Everyday, thousands of new cars are delivered to their new owners with poorly-selected radio station presets.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18486169 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:44:28 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485625 anon : »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opendns

PhishTank / typo correction / anti-porn blocking for the kiddies

'nuff said...we have a clear winner!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485625 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:03:34 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485356 anon : what you been smoking?

Results for psychobabbleafiaf8wq8r23.com
United States
New York, New York, USA Palo Alto, California, USA
DID NOT RESOLVE DID NOT RESOLVE
Seattle, Washington, USA Washington, DC, USA
DID NOT RESOLVE DID NOT RESOLVE

Europe
London, England, UK
DID NOT RESOLVE

None of our locations could resolve this domain.

Try "Refresh the cache" first. That will fix problem #1 below.
Four possibilities:

Domain was recently moved and the new address has not propagated.
Domain does not exist in DNS.
Domain's nameservers have problems, temporary or otherwise.
There is a problem with a record on OpenDNS servers. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485356 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:02:57 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485810 fcisler : Wow...way to completely misread my post. No, I don't think or assume that. I also didn't say "HACKS", as in the sense I'm going to assume that you mean - I said hack. Here's a definition:

1. Originally, a quick job that produces what is needed, but not well.


Perfect definition in this case.

It IS a hack as there is NO, read it, NO, means for authentication via DNS. In otherwords - when I request a result from OpenDNS - it is identical to YOUR request, with the exception of our IP address'.

Now...it IS a hack that they will then have THEIR DNS SERVER check a database to find MY IP to find that I OPTED OUT of their bogus domain forwarding.

You are completely off in your assumption - I don't see OpenDNS as having ANY OTHER WAY to "fix" the results than those steps posted. If you have any other inside info - please post it.....but I don't ever recall seeing ANY OTHER DNS do that, unless specifically designed to.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485810 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:23:31 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485784 koolkid1563 :
said by fcisler See Profile :

and it IS a hack, as it's got to check my account to get my IP
So, what you are saying is that EVERY website (including this one) hacks into your account to grab your IP...not true]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485784 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:17:48 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485757 phattieg :
said by rdata :

208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220

openDNS.com nothin' beats it...
Well, your connection will get sent to a walled garden status, not to mention the DNS suffix will be what keeps you from getting anywhere but that page.

Here's the deal people, if you called Comcast at some point, or if your field tech/installer called the dispatcher and had your modem "pushed" into an active status. Just accept the terms of service, and get on with it. Just like the "Welcome" screen, this is a DNS SUFFIX setting.
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SIPPhone/Gizmo # 17476200648 / PIMPNET Chatline / Ran by Asterisk & Slackware 10.1.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485757 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:10:05 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485697 fcisler : Nope....i prefer not to rely on such a hack as this (and it IS a hack, as it's got to check my account to get my IP, and then put my IP on i guess a "safe list") blah blah blah....

I just run my own DNS server and cache from 4.2.2.1. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485697 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:47:51 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485637 quatrix : EDIT: tyscoj beat me to it.

Have you tried this?

»www.opendns.com/faq/#change_prefs

How do I turn off phishing protection or typo correction?

Create a free account to manage your network preferences.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485637 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:33:28 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485624 tyscoj :
said by fcisler See Profile :

Except they (opendns) also redirect invalid DNS lookups.

Try it. I won't use ANY DNS which returns ANYTHING but
"NOT VALID" on a lookup of afiaf8wq8r23.com (or any invalid domain). Opendns will return 208.69.32.130.

Nope...sorry...
This is a setting that you have enabled for your network. It can be turned off via the OpenDNS site...along with a few other options.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485624 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:30:17 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485541 anon :
said by rdata :

openDNS.com nothin' beats it...
Except TreeWalk DNS]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485541 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:10:26 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485441 Mutiny32 : 4.2.2.1
4.2.2.2
4.2.2.3
4.2.2.4

all of these > OpenDNS]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485441 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:47:20 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485317 fcisler : Except they (opendns) also redirect invalid DNS lookups.

Try it. I won't use ANY DNS which returns ANYTHING but
"NOT VALID" on a lookup of afiaf8wq8r23.com (or any invalid domain). Opendns will return 208.69.32.130.

Nope...sorry...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485317 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:14:48 EDT Re: OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485270 Safemaster : Reliable and fast.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485270 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:00:06 EDT OPENDNS http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485254 anon : 208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220

openDNS.com nothin' beats it...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485254 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 08:55:31 EDT