Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | reply to NHpublius
Re: Futile said by NHpublius:Why? Because they are spending Billions of dollars just to acquire a company. A telecommunications company that has historically for the past ten years had declining revenue in Telephone service, and is making ho hum profits with DSL. Also, in order to get to that last 20% of rural homes in NH alone is going to be a very expensive, long, drawn out undertaking. That doesn't even include wiring, and installing DSL in nearly all of Maine and Vermont. In the short term (3-5 years) it's a money maker, but in the long term it's a losing proposition especially because Fairpoint is relying on old internet technology and does not intend to upgrade anything. Hence the "lower the price".
said by NHpublius:Don't believe me? It's a financial fact. Sift through the Verizon financials to find out on your own. And you can keep your bridge. I don't believe you, nor will I waste time looking it up, since Verizon would not still be in business if this is the business model they pursued.
said by NHpublius: Not if you're not going to replace the copper, regardless if you're customers can get DSL or not.That makes no sense. If you don't replace the copper it is less expensive, then upgrading to fiber.
said by NHpublius:So, you've run the fiber that's in place? You have knowledge of what is up where? My guess is that you don't.. you're just pulling all of this out of your butt. Contrary to your popular belief, much of the fiber is already in place along every highway, major road, and thoroughfare. In most populated areas it's already in most of the neighborhoods. Wherever it isn't its basically just a matter of running a drop from the pole to the house. Don't speak to something you have no idea about. Laugh, you can't just add drops from the pole to the house on a long haul fiber network.
said by NHpublius:Sure. So you would be happy with sub-standard service? Service that is even worse than Verizons? Not at all, what's that got to do with anything?
said by NHpublius:So, I guess that's about it... Let me know when you would like to "educated" again. You've certainly got a lot to teach about the use of logical fallacies. |
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| I think I'm losing IQ points every time I read another one of your posts. Everything you say is backed by nothing but conjecture and guesswork. I suggest before you reply again next time that you actually do some research and educate yourself...
With that said, lets get into it again...
1) Verizon offered the northern states to Fairpoint for a slightly lower price than what was expected. I don't see 2.7 Billion as deal any way you look at it.
2) You overestimate Verizon and their business model. Yet again you speak to something you know nothing about
3) So if you don't replace the copper, then most of the areas that Fairpoint says they will upgrade will be not be upgraded....
4) You can place a drop where ever you want to. It's called fiber splicing.
5)What it has to do with anything is Fairpoint is statistically a lower ranking company in concerns to customer service than Verizon is.
6)"fallacies", huh? did you pull out your thesaurus for that one? If fallacies means "backed by fact" then I guess I'm guilty as charged..
Lastly, heres something else to chew on... Morgan Stanley just reduced it's rating on Fairpoint due to no confidence in their business plan....
Until next time,
your pal... |
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| I always find it interesting how quickly people like Aherni and Bostones1 shutup once they are bombarded over and over by the facts.... Where are you? |
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | Either you want me to stop posting or you don't.
Since you didn't actually bring anything up, I had decided not to respond. All you did was state the opposite of what I said, or that I was wrong.
1.) Nothing to do with them lowing the price in the future to attract more bids.
2.) Apparently reality has changed, and that's why I'm wrong..
3.) Yes, but what's that got to do with VZ not upgrading copper, vs the cost of upgrading to fiber? Nothing.. once again you just blather on..
4.) Just adding drops in the middle of a long haul fiber run is not going to work.. Otherwise I'll just go add a drop to the fiber line going right by my house.. That's been there for 15 years btw.
5.) Statistically lower ranking on average. How do you think they'll treat the customers they're forced to retain, on infrastructure they won't spend money to support. I imagine they'll need a new scale for how bad it will get.
6.) Logical fallacies: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy
I'll leave it up to you to select the plethora (you can look that one up too) you've decided to use.
6b) ...or because they have a massive short position. |
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| Oh, I want you to stop posting, its just that your so darn entertaining.
Nothing has changed.. you know nothing about Verizon's business model.
Listen carefully.... You can add a fiber drop ANYWHERE within a fiber span... that includes the fiber right in front of your house.. but if it's been hanging there for 15 years it's probably not the best type of fiber to splice into (single mode vs multimode... go ahead and look that up)
They will treat customers that "they're forced to retain" the same as any other customer they have... that's part of their business model silly!
And lastly, Morgan Stanley is not just another firm looking for a short position.. They are Fairpoint's CHIEF financial adviser in this merger.. which means that Fairpoint hired them to look over this deal top to bottom to make sure it's in the best interest of Fairpoint and it's investors. They have access to intimate knowledge that we, as the public are not privy to.
hugs and kisses |
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