Re: Trust in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18501091 en Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:34:14 EDT Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:34:14 EDT Re: Trust http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18511120 PDXPLT :
said by VZ service tech :

I was told by cable that no new copper plant would be placed even if we ran out of good pairs. They will just have to find a way to fix it.
I'm no fan of unions and their protect-mediocrity, kill-ambition mentality, but this does align with what I've heard from VZ techs who try to fix problems around here.

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We provide good quality service to our customers regardless of where they live.


What a crock. Believe me, no one in my neighborhood would call what we get from Verizon as "good quality service". And Verizon knows it.

When you call Verizon, you get a very nice person at the call center, who'll tell you yessir, that's not right, we'll get right on it.

Then the next day, you get a call from some obnoxious local person, telling you no, we're not gonna roll a truck to fix that, you'll just have to live with it, we know you have no choice (no cable in this neighborhood).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18511120 Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:13:41 EDT Re: Trust http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18501091 cob_ : For better or for worse, I would say that CWA could consider these actions on Verizon's part a way to show union members what they could have had had they not relied on union contracts and stifled their own advancement by locking themselves into copper technology.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18501091 Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:27:55 EDT Re: Trust http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18494927 TScheisskopf :
said by S_engineer See Profile :

wrong...they care about the repectable wages for their constituants rather than non-signitory contractors working for pennies. None of these non-signitory contractors have gone through an apprenticeship or had the level of training that is demanded. Futhermore, Verizon or Comcast (etc...etc..)do not pass on the savings to the consumer whether it's union or non-union.
So in ten years when all the good jobs are at Walmart, take a look in the mirror!
You have SOOOOOOO wrong! The great god of the airwaves, Bill O'Loofah, says unions are corrupt, nasty, traitorous and they smell funny. Ergo, it must be so.

Billo knows. HE KNOWS!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18494927 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 20:07:14 EDT Re: Trust http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18494347 NyQuil Kid :
said by rudnicke See Profile :

At this point, I would trust the union over a Verizon spokesperson.
[sarcasm]
Yeah, because everyone knows that unions don't have their own agenda and are just looking out for you...[/sarcasm]

If anyone honestly believes the above, you're a moron.

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So in ten years when all the good jobs are at Walmart, take a look in the mirror!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18494198 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:58:04 EDT Re: Trust http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18494015 Supafly :
said by VZ service tech :

OK, how about this. I worked in copper for about six months. In that time, we were constantly waiting for tools and equipment because so much money was being sent to the FIOS department. I was told by cable that no new copper plant would be placed even if we ran out of good pairs. They will just have to find a way to fix it. The FIOS guys got brand new laptops. We got their hand-me-downs. Even in a meeting we were told most of the money is going to fiber.
Sounds like FiOS envy... :)

Seriously though, they are doing what any smart company does. They are re-locating their efforts and resources to the solution that is being provided for the long term. Why on god's earth would they continue to throw money down the copper toilet when they can better spend those resources on get Fiber to the masses, faster?

You said it yourself:

said by VZ service tech :

However, in the time I was there I can't think of a time where things became so critical that customers were left hanging.
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said by dispatcher21 See Profile :

Where is the proof? The union just spouts stuff off but there is nothing there to back it up. Photos? Statistics of service being down? CSR stats? Where is the proof? Anyone can say anything they want but without proof, its crap.
OK, how about this. I worked in copper for about six months. In that time, we were constantly waiting for tools and equipment because so much money was being sent to the FIOS department. I was told by cable that no new copper plant would be placed even if we ran out of good pairs. They will just have to find a way to fix it. The FIOS guys got brand new laptops. We got their hand-me-downs. Even in a meeting we were told most of the money is going to fiber. However, in the time I was there I can't think of a time where things became so critical that customers were left hanging.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18493857 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:17:57 EDT Re: Trust http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18493616 chemaupr : I agree with you. Union leaders are as bad as CEOs. They only care about their pockets]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18493616 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:22:14 EDT Re: Trust http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18493487 TK Junk Mail :
said by rudnicke See Profile :

At this point, I would trust the union over a Verizon spokesperson.
And I would trust almost anyone before I would trust a union leader.
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