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DaveNJ
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reply to en102
Re: Ion.

said by en102 See Profile :

Well, its not quite as bad as 2billion GSM/UMTS to 3 million CDMA, however the difference is more than significant, plus the roaming arrangements.

GSM/UMTS (from 3Gamericas.org) = 2.5 billion
CDMA (from cdg.org) 350 million.
yes that is correct, i couldnt get to cdg (dns issues) but it was a bad guess, although gsmworld yesterday said 2.2 billion. But there is a significant difference.
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Time4aNAP
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said by DaveNJ See Profile :

Lets see there are 2 Billion GSM users, and 3 million cdma users. Thats a significant economy of scale.
No...those are just two suspiciously round numbers. What orifice did you pull them out of? Don't you know what economy of scale means?

The fact you can go into a store just about anywhere in the world and get a quad band phone that will work worldwide...
...has nothing at all to do with this topic.

3Gsm(umts) is being added to just about every gsm network. So when all the nextel people who must buy new equipment, because of frequency changes...
Whoa there! What new equipment? What frequency changes? Who's getting the existing frequencies?

could be buying easily accessible sold worldwide handsets. Sprint should just forget Wimax and go HSUPA, at least in metro areas. Maybe they will get some roaming revenue.
So precisely how will this benefit Sprint in any way? Has it still not dawned on you that Sprint has no GSM infrastructure? By what stretch of the imagination do you believe that Sprint could possibly recoup the massive capital investment necessary to build a completely different physical plant (from scratch, no less)? "Maybe they will get some roaming revenue" is not a business plan!


en102
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reply to DaveNJ
Well, its not quite as bad as 2billion GSM/UMTS to 3 million CDMA, however the difference is more than significant, plus the roaming arrangements.

GSM/UMTS (from 3Gamericas.org) = 2.5 billion
CDMA (from cdg.org) 350 million.
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DaveNJ
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reply to Time4aNAP
said by Time4aNAP See Profile :

said by DaveNJ See Profile :

When Sprint merged with Nextel, they should have converted to GSM/3G, which has better economies of scale.
Wait a minute. Are you seriously suggesting that Sprint throw away its far superior EV-DO equipment to buy GSM? That means replacing their entire infrastructure, and force all of their customers to buy new equipment, whether they want to or not? That would most certainly kill Sprint for good.

What is it about Sprint that attracts you "plan to fail" types?

EDIT: Precisely what "economies of scale"???
Lets see there are 2 Billion GSM users, and 3 million cdma users. Thats a significant economy of scale. The fact you can go into a store just about anywhere in the world and get a quad band phone that will work worldwide.

3Gsm(umts) is being added to just about every gsm network. So when all the nextel people who must buy new equipment, because of frequency changes, could be buying easily accessible sold worldwide handsets. Sprint should just forget Wimax and go HSUPA, at least in metro areas. Maybe they will get some roaming revenue.
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inteller
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reply to Time4aNAP
i wouldn't throw it away for GSM equipment, but I would throw it away for WCDMA....which is what the rest of the world is going to.

Time4aNAP
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said by DaveNJ See Profile :

When Sprint merged with Nextel, they should have converted to GSM/3G, which has better economies of scale.
Wait a minute. Are you seriously suggesting that Sprint throw away its far superior EV-DO equipment to buy GSM? That means replacing their entire infrastructure, and force all of their customers to buy new equipment, whether they want to or not? That would most certainly kill Sprint for good.

What is it about Sprint that attracts you "plan to fail" types?

EDIT: Precisely what "economies of scale"???

CMoore2004
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reply to DaveNJ
Ummm, no.


DaveNJ
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reply to rodrod5
I wanted sprint IOn but was not in a service area, what gets me about Sprint, is they dont do things to save money. When Sprint merged with Nextel, they should have converted to GSM/3G, which has better economies of scale. If sprint could bring back ION, and integrate it with a cell phone, and use GSM. Sprint might have a chance at 3rd place.

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reply to inteller
I still wish I had my ION

I keep the hub just in case
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