pnh102
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Re: Utopia In The Hole
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It has been calculated that worst case scenario (network is total loss) cost to tax payers is between 5-10 dollars a month (per household). Do you enjoy spending 5-10 dollars a month if you don't need to? I don't. This estimate is patently ridiculous anyway, given how much money it costs just to run cable.
said by once again :
Maybe you realized this or maybe you didn't, comcast costs 15 dollars month less in utopia areas.
But you're paying more in taxes to fund utopia, so where is the savings?
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Even if they never use a utopia service they will save money. You started your post by claiming that utopia costs each taxpayer 5-10 dollars more a month. How can you claim to save any money if you have to spend more money?
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| Judging from your posts I can only assume that you have misunderstood the entire project, concept, cost and function of the utopia network.
Do you have something fundamentally against paying less for 15mbit symmetrical internet than what comcast delivers to you today? And not only that but being able to decide between several for profit non government companies on who best will serve you to get your money? Don't like your isp on utopia?? change it. Don't like your cable isp?? you're screwed!!
You claim the taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook for something like this. If you've ever studied economics, the taxpayers are on the hook for EVERYTHING in some way or another. If you think comcast upgrading to fiber throughout your city/state wouldn't cost you as a taxpayer in some way or another you'd be crazy. Plus the taxpayers voted utopia in anyways knowing the risk. And Utah has ran a millions of dollars a year budget surplus for the last few years anyways.
As far as the savings i don't know how i can spell it out more clearly.
Potential Cost 5-10 per month per household that would likely come as property tax increase (but only if utopia loses solvency the network is worth nothing and taxpayers have to pay the entire bonds)
Confirmed Savings 15+ dollars a month in internet alone.
That is 30-40 vs 45-55 depending on who your isp and plan is. And even if you dont get any utopia services you still save money because comcast charges 29.99 in utopia areas for their fastest speeds in utah (currently 8/756).
But wait there's more.
My business pays in the realm of 1400 dollars a month for two T1 lines giving about 3mbit symmetrical speeds. If I was in utopia land I could get their business services with 30mbit symmetrical speeds for 145 dollars a month. hmm ten times more speed for 10 times less money. Heck I'd even donate the entire cost difference to the "taxes" you are so worried about and just keep the 30/30 for 1400 if I could.
And finally please never never never call utopia an isp, it is not. If your internet goes down you call at&t or xmission or whomever your isp is. |
