ColorBASIC
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Corona, CA
2 edits | reply to S_engineer
Re: Union doesn't give a crap about the customers
Thanks for making my point.
I don't give a crap about the Union getting more dough for the membership...just these stupid astroturf-like smokescreens. The Union doesn't give two squits of piss about the customers.
They should just say they don't believe they can get a good deal for the workers if they're dealing with FairPoint versus a bigger company instead of these red herrings.
Meanwhile if you don't like Wal*Mart, don't shop there.
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
 ·Comcast
| Actually your point is ill-informed. A union member has to go through an apprenticeship (at a lower wage) where he or she learns every facet of that particular trade. This make the worker a more efficient, better trained technician than that of worker with no or limited training. This should be reflected in the network. Now even you can comprehend this.
Why don't you ask the workers what FairPoint is neglecting to give them! |
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ColorBASIC
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Corona, CA | Nice troll. |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL | VICIUOS COMEBACK.....STOP IT
mCfLY! |
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ColorBASIC
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4 edits | Come on. Read the thread instead of going 'shields up' for the Union bosses and running off on these off-topic attempts to argue the merits of union members.
No one gives a crap about union member training as we see in the case of FiOS, non-union west coast installs going faster than east coast union installs. This is about the union boss smokescreen...similar to the one last week about Verizon neglecting its copper.
The union doesn't want to deal with FairPoint because they won't be able to cut as good a deals as they could with a larger company like Verizon. Anyone with a brain can see that.
They should just SAY that instead of wasting everyone's time with all the bullcrap. The union doesn't give a damn about the customers, nor should they. They represent the union membership.
And before getting all bent, realize that not all criticism of a union is directed at union members.
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chemaupr
join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA
| my experiences with union as a past union member is that all they care is to protect the lazy a** members. I had to work my b** off because the lazy a** union has some idiot negotiations that only benefit the lazy people. Sure it give me good benefits but the other as**le that worked 1/5 of his time had the same benefits and it was hard for mngmt to get rid of him. So I have no sympathy for what ever the union says.
Further, the union role is to seek for the benefits of its members and as far as I know the customers are not unionized  |
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ColorBASIC
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Corona, CA | Again, this has ZERO to do with union membership. |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
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| fist of all, union membership relies on a good product, which is good for the consumer. The union knows this because without a decent product, it's dead. This is self preservation.
Second, most corps. try to eliminate union members because this is they're greatest expense. A lower waged worker will give them a greater profit margin. This is never filtered down to the consumer. It is only reflected in
8 digit paychecks to board members. Once the union members are gone, you better believe they'll be gunning for the rest!
Look at what ATT did here in the midwest, slashed the workforce by roughly 1/3rd. Now they're offering IPTV, VOIP, and internet. How can I truly believe this network will not fail at multiple juctures with that much less staff to deal with the added workload.
Finally, unions like non-union entities have lazy people.
All you have to do to find anti union and pro union laziness is look at congress.\
and CB, it what you whos gut reaction was to bash union bosses from the getgo! |
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BernieLyons
join:2004-02-28
Paramus, NJ
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Unfortunately, the communications customer has no other choice in Comm. suppliers, whereas with Walmart you have many other choices.
As for anti union, consider the source, a Mac user, and we all know they are mad at the world because they will always be No. 2 |
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