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JohnInSJ
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join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA
reply to DaneJasper
Re: Hosting a WiFi hotspot?

Yay 2 dots in San Jose! bobrk, you getting one too? We can slowly fill in coverage
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My place : »www.schettino.us


bobrk
You kids get offa my lawn
Premium
join:2000-02-02
San Jose, CA
·SONIC.NET

said by JohnInSJ See Profile :

Yay 2 dots in San Jose! bobrk, you getting one too? We can slowly fill in coverage
We'll see...
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Iraq Coalition Deaths | bobrk


DaneJasper
Sonic.Net
Premium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
clubs:
It's interesting to see how the usage is growing.

»public.meraki.net/network/Sonic.netWiFi

-Dane


bobrk
You kids get offa my lawn
Premium
join:2000-02-02
San Jose, CA
It's interesting to see that Djdeadly See Profile's hotspot is two hotspots. Why is that?

I'll PM you my info, Dane.


DaneJasper
Sonic.Net
Premium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
clubs:

said by bobrk See Profile :

It's interesting to see that Djdeadly See Profile's hotspot is two hotspots. Why is that?

I'll PM you my info, Dane.
I think he's got two units - an indoor one and an outdoor one.

-Dane


veloslave
Geek For God
Premium
join:2003-07-11
Pleasant Hill, CA
·PHONE POWER
·SONIC.NET


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reply to DaneJasper
Woo hoo... live in Pleasant Hill

Haven't really done much more than plug er in and check it... but it's running great.

Was it just me or do the units not come with network cables or documentation? I have quite a few of the shorties laying around anyhow but I am still wondering how to get into the configuration console so I can set up security and define internal traffic. Anybody got the IP for the config? I tried a couple of the obvious 192.168.x.x ones but no luck.

I was surprised how small & simple the unit is... am looking forward to checking its range... especially considering I am already running the Linksys/DD-WRT with the upgraded antennas and the radio power OC'd. What kind of range is everyone getting? How many units are you using?

Hey Dane.... THANKS a lot for the help... if we ever do anything like this again... just for the record I am, eh hem, an XL kinda guy
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Mom was right.... I NEED fiber!


bobrk
You kids get offa my lawn
Premium
join:2000-02-02
San Jose, CA
·SONIC.NET

said by veloslave See Profile :

Hey Dane.... THANKS a lot for the help... if we ever do anything like this again... just for the record I am, eh hem, an XL kinda guy
Yeah, I am too.
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Iraq Coalition Deaths | bobrk


JohnInSJ
Premium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA
·Comcast


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reply to DaneJasper
No cables. No docs. No set up possible (as far as I know) - just plug it in and it works.

You can see your hotspot on the map
»public.meraki.net/network/Sonic.netWiFi
»www.netequality.net/overview.php···.netWiFi

FYI I got me a user Must be a neighbor, but they've been on off and on for a few days (and 76MB!).

Gonna start wracking up those credits now baby
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My place : »www.schettino.us


bobrk
You kids get offa my lawn
Premium
join:2000-02-02
San Jose, CA
Heh, I'm already on the map and I haven't got my box yet.


DaneJasper
Sonic.Net
Premium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
clubs:
Yup. The NetEquality map will show up/down status, so you'll see it go up shortly after you plug it in.

-Dane


bobrk
You kids get offa my lawn
Premium
join:2000-02-02
San Jose, CA
So I can just plug it into my router or are there instructions?


veloslave
Geek For God
Premium
join:2003-07-11
Pleasant Hill, CA
·PHONE POWER
·SONIC.NET

reply to JohnInSJ
said by JohnInSJ See Profile :

No cables. No docs. No set up possible (as far as I know) - just plug it in and it works.
So if there is no setup... then it is pre-configured for external use only? Internal wireless users will not get encryption, LAN or full bandwidth? I still have my Linksys/DD-WRT running so no problem for me with that scenario (as long as I can continue to use the Linksys)... I just thought it had more flexibility.

said by JohnInSJ See Profile
Gonna start wracking up those credits now baby
[/BQUOTE :


Remember... we all share in the same pot and... GOOD JOB!

Hey Dane.... how soon until the ads go live?
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Mom was right.... I NEED fiber!


veloslave
Geek For God
Premium
join:2003-07-11
Pleasant Hill, CA
·PHONE POWER
·SONIC.NET

reply to bobrk
said by bobrk See Profile :

So I can just plug it into my router or are there instructions?
I plugged it into the switch off of my router and it works like a charm!
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Mom was right.... I NEED fiber!


JohnInSJ
Premium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA
·Comcast

reply to DaneJasper
Apparently, at some point we'll get access to the WPA-secured side of these buggers as sonic users, or something... but I don't think they're far enough along on the whole idea just yet.

These are rate limited already (1mbit max? did I remember that right?)

All I know for sure is, I had the old hotspot up for, what, three years now and I think I had one log-on the whole time. Free is definitely more attractive.

Due to an oddity of the way I monitor my site, I can see the hotspot traffic by comparing the modem stats and the main router box stats (»schettino.us/stats) looks like it's using 1.4% of my uplink, and 0.1% of my downlink (on average)
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My place : »www.schettino.us


DaneJasper
Sonic.Net
Premium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
clubs:

reply to veloslave
Nope, there's no setup - it's designed to be plug and play. We manage the whole network of access points from here, and can set things like speed, splash page details, etc.

At the moment, it's set up at a max of 1Mbps down, and 200kbps up. It's likely that we'll reduce this, perhaps to 500kbps/100kbps to further insulate gateway hosts from potential impact.

Web browsers will see a splash screen and be redirected to the Sonic.net home page before they can browse. Soon, this will be replaced with a landing page that's more informative and useful. Non-browser applications (iPhone, Nintendo DS etc) can access the Internet despite not having clicked through the splash screen.

The "ad bar" is on as of today, but it's only showing on some sites, and it's mostly just providing a Google search bar function. More to come here, it's quite beta.

Our goal is to soon provide WPA access at two other speed tiers. These would be a mid speed with ads for Sonic.net customers who do not host a WiFi gateway, and a high speed for those who host a gateway on their DSL. This provides an added benefit for those who choose to host an access point. However, we're still in discussions with Meraki about this concept, and they have not committed to the required integration (yet).

-Dane


bobrk
You kids get offa my lawn
Premium
join:2000-02-02
San Jose, CA
reply to JohnInSJ
Do you have any idea of the range?


DaneJasper
Sonic.Net
Premium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
clubs:

Here's the range guess data:

Typical Repeating Radius

* Indoor: 100-150ft (30-50m)
* Outdoor: 300-750ft (100-250m)

We generally would suggest that you put it in a window for maximum coverage. See image for example.

-Dane


bobrk
You kids get offa my lawn
Premium
join:2000-02-02
San Jose, CA
I have a window right next to my network stuff. Should be a piece of cake.

rzg00

join:2003-11-23
Ben Lomond, CA

 reply to DaneJasper
I'm running linksys/dd-wrt, have a dynamic IP and live out in the sticks on a couple of acres (Ben Lomond in Santa Cruz), even so I can generally pick up an encrypted network or two from my neighbors) so I'm not sure that I'd get much traffic on a hotspot, but I do rather like the idea.

What would I need to do to participate?


bobrk
You kids get offa my lawn
Premium
join:2000-02-02
San Jose, CA
reply to bobrk
And I'm up and posting from it right now with my iPhone.
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