NBC Universal Laments 'Bandwidth Hogs' > NBC complaint is legit and FCC should consider it

NBC complaint is legit and FCC should consider it

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But it is changing! Lame reality shows and gambling! Aught to do wonders for long term profit ...
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Here is a revolutionary thought ! Help the customer get what they want at a price the market will bare and profit. Instead of fight tooth and nail against a new business model and falter.

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No way I'm buying P2P is 60%+ of all internet traffic.

No way.

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While I'll agree that the US exports entertainment, it is not generally the largest export (and thus greatest income).

Why should the government be liable for protecting what an industry should have considered and implemented: protecting its product from theft?

Should P2P be blocked, period? Made illegal like guns and thus a criminal offense to even let a packet escape onto an ISP's network?
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Media companies are too focused on their parachutes then what the people want.

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well the ISP cant know what im sending. its impossible and hurts performance. and if UPS did deliver drugs or a bomb they arent liable for the laws violated.
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Your jumping to a conclusion in saying that I support piracy. I don't , I am a staunch supporter of paying for what you watch. I actually TiVo shows and if the show is good I watch the commercials as well.

The market will pay what it can to get content. If NBC offered their content for 5$ in an economy where people make that a week , what do you expect to happen ? I am not condoning it. But I am calling FUD on the part of NBC. You can not expect people to plunk down a weeks savings to watch tv for an hour. This is not right on their part to expect that of people. The need to do things in scale , but they fear doing that because they feel it cuts down on their profits.

Here in lay the issues for the MPAA and the RIAA , they fail to understand economies of scale and they fail to understand that this thing we call the inter tubes is not under our control. We can't just start interfering with a global system because they feel slighted.

If they would stop doing ridiculous things then maybe they could make more of a profit and prevent runaway salaries like we currently have.

I can't expect a family in Colombia to pay 1.99$ dollar for a show off I tunes. that is some where near 4400 Colombian pesos. and can feed a person lunch there. Now the typical retort will be well then they don't need the show , and should concentrate on the food. Yeah that is all well and good to say that , but because they are third world families doesn't mean they deserve to be un entertained and controlled because they were unfortunate enough to be born into that world. And that is the typical spoiled attitude we as Americans have towards other countries.

With that being said do you think if the show was say 100 Colombian pesos , there would be a chance more people would purchase it in the country instead of grabbing it off their already paid for inter tube thingy ?

We as Americans are spoiled by what we have and don't really look at the world from others points of view. We are falling fast because we have a set of blinders on preventing us from actually seeing the rest of the world.

When NBC decides to play economies of scales they may find themselves in a tight bind. Fox does this and makes a killing in south America , prison break has become a break away hit down there because they played the economy of scales card. Sure its not making them 50 million every episode like the us and Canada markets but it's a strong showing of 2 to 6 million per episode and it hasn't cost them much to play the market.

We will be surpassed by Brazil , China and India in the near future because of greed. And yet people blame piracy for the loss of our ip income. Is it really piracy to blame or is it merely the lack of the ability to throw off the corporate blinders to realize the world is not the US. The only reason we are held in such high regards now is because we have money, and that is it. If we didn't have that and we won't for long , we would be treated like those countries. And when it happens and Brazil's Idol is popular and you have to download it because you can't get it on tv here , maybe you will see how much it affects the people there.

I have said it before and will again. This is a global market now , the companies don't like it because we get options and they can't rake us over the coals any more so their profits dwindle.now we have new corporate overlords to rake us over the coals. Companies like NBC have to realize that our pockets are now emptied globally not just domestically.

While that went a long way it all relates back to the product being sold for a price that a market deems fair enough to purchase. And it varies from person to person. In order to stay competitive you have to cater to the lowest common denominator. So lower the cost or watch your business die. God I love a free market.
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water is free, but people still pay for it.

Those silly bottled water companies! Instead of lobbying congress for laws to make people drink bottled water, they actually came up with a successful business plan! What a bunch of doofusses!

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Water isn't free... unless you live with your parents. Otherwise it's factored into the cost of your rent. (If you're not a property owner) Conversely you could also pay for and maintain a private well, which still costs you money, especially in filtration.

As far as what price is fair, you don't need to set a price that will have EVERYONE buy it. There will always be piraters. The problem right now is that prices have been artificially kept high, and piraters have been able to tap the huge potential of a portion of the populace to help and support them. If you set prices that make it more hassle/risk than reward (Saving a couple of bucks) the pirate community will wither to a select few, who would never have been customers in the first place. Then, who cares what they do, because there's not enough of them to matter.

For a fact water is free. Like the well example you can also go to the river with a bucket and claim as much free water as you want. Granted it a hassle to bring to your residence, not clean (have to purify it first) and then get rid of it. Most do not want to deal with the hassle or clean it so they pay the local water company.

Likewise, all that free P2P stuff is out there but again its a hassle to download, and then make sure it's clean. If it was reasonably priced instead of a ripoff I would rather buy it than deal with the hassle of waiting who knows how long for it to download and then it crap on my machine.

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Water is free in places like restaurants, etc. I've never been charged for a glass of ice water when dining out.

I've also never seen a water fountain with a change slot.

Me, I have a well but even that water isn't free. It costs electricity to pump it to the surface.

I see your point, as far as water not being free, and someone paying for it, etc, etc. But look at the price of a bottle of Fiji water, or even the aquafina stuff Pepsi sells. Right now it's $1.50 for a 20 oz bottle at the local convenience store.

That works out to approximately $9.60 a gallon.

When people are bitching about paying $3.00 a gallon for gas that had to be shipped in from a foreign country, and refined through complex machinery just to make it usable, I consider it some pretty damn good marketing when someone can convince people to pay over 3X more than they are paying for gas when they have a cheap, practically inexhaustible supply of it at home.

I rarely buy bottled water. My well is over 600 ft deep, and the water is great run though the filter built into the fridge...
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i always drink spring water when at work but then again i use the supplied water coolers. which we are allowed to fill our water bottles from.
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