| BFD I'm constantly amazed at how so many people go out of their way to find something to bitch about. Life is much more pleasant if you just take a step back. |
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
kudos:2 | said by JohnBrowning:I'm constantly amazed at how so many people go out of their way to find something to bitch about. Life is much more pleasant if you just take a step back. If people didn't bitch, then AT&T would still be the original AT&T charging us to lease phones from them. We'd be on 128/128 DSL and paying up the ass. Our cable companies would be charging us outrageous fees..
Nothing much has changed.
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join:2005-12-18
Milledgeville, GA | reply to JohnBrowning
said by JohnBrowning:I'm constantly amazed at how so many people go out of their way to find something to bitch about. Life is much more pleasant if you just take a step back. If you realized that this affects far more than simple web browsing, you'd understand why we're so annoyed. It goes beyond revenue generation for Verizon -- it breaks an important aspect of core internet operation. |
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join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
kudos:1 | SPs suggest the service is a tool for helping wayward web surfers
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isn't that swell? They are thinking of us. Wow! a new and useful tool, and it's freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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join:2001-03-15
hiatus | reply to JohnBrowning
said by JohnBrowning:I'm constantly amazed at how so many people go out of their way to find something to bitch about. You do realize that there are technical people on this site - systems administrators, network administrators, network engineers (guys who deal with Cisco, Foundry, etc. not telco/cable stuff)... We make a stink about this stuff because it, by technical definition, breaks the internet.
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| said by bmn:said by JohnBrowning:I'm constantly amazed at how so many people go out of their way to find something to bitch about. You do realize that there are technical people on this site - systems administrators, network administrators, network engineers (guys who deal with Cisco, Foundry, etc. not telco/cable stuff)... We make a stink about this stuff because it, by technical definition, breaks the internet. Of course I understand fully understand that. I am a network engineer. It doesn't "break the internet". I still say folks need to take a chill pill. |
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bmn? ? ?Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus | Actually, I kindly submit that it does. When an application is expecting an NXDOMAIN domain response for a non-existent domain, but instead is given an IP redirect, big problems abound.
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tyscoj3
join:2002-06-17
Fort Pierce, FL | reply to JohnBrowning
It may not necessarily "break the internet" itself, but it does break some applications/tools. I'm also sure that there is some rule or regulation it violates.
SPAM Filters are the #1 item it would break considering the software couldnt tell if the domain was valid or not if they all come back as valid (Redirecting to some live IP).
There are many more, just look at the issues it caused a few years ago. |
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| said by tyscoj3:It may not necessarily "break the internet" itself, but it does break some applications/tools. I'm also sure that there is some rule or regulation it violates. SPAM Filters are the #1 item it would break considering the software couldnt tell if the domain was valid or not if they all come back as valid (Redirecting to some live IP). There are many more, just look at the issues it caused a few years ago. Now, that's fair. I agree it does break some applications & tools. It seems to me that the root of most of the objections I read is some unreasonable distaste for somebody trying to make a buck. If nobody was making a buck, there'd be no networks. |
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bmn? ? ?Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus | said by JohnBrowning:It seems to me that the root of most of the objections I read is some unreasonable distaste for somebody trying to make a buck. Good point and I agree, but to an extent, they are off base. Trying to make a buck by violating established internet standards isn't a good business practice. If Verizon had instead released something like a browser plugin that allowed people to opt-in to the service, I would be all for it, as long is it works well and doesn't just present them with unrelated ads like some redirect services have been known to do. This way, everyone would win - you would maintain the integrity of the network at the protocol level, Verizon could make a few fucks, customers who want the feature could have it and those who don't could opt-out.
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