1 edit | Let's Do UNOFFICIAL SURVEY Minus Verizon Fios / Optimum Online users which have higher end bandwidth but still marginal compared to the rest of the world, (Verizon, OOL don't offer symmetrical so they are not on par with other countries) let's see how much speed everyone else's isp actually gives.
Then you can see my point above, there are no GOOD ISPS. There are only marginal ones that give a bit more than basic to limited users (FIOS / OOL). The rest simply don't even do that.
Time Warner Western Ohio - 8 / 512 (Regular) & 15 / 768 turbo
Notice the huge disproportionate download to upload speeds. |
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| These "surveys" are pretty damn useless as the typical consumer doesn't have any real choice anyway. Who really gives a crap where your ISP ranks on the list when you don't have the option of picking another to begin with. |
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 PhilRojo SolPremium
join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA
kudos:2 | I have five options in my area: DSL Extreme (ADSL), Earthlink (ADSL), Verizon (ADSL), Time Warner (Cable) and dial-up. So it may matter to someone.
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| Who cares about symmetrical speeds?
I am a LIGHT user of OOL BOOST.
There are other users who make my speeds and totals look like a joke. |
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It's also not really fair to compare a large, spread-out country like the US to, say, Japan or South Korea, where it isn't hard to provide high-speed BW to the public, due to population density. |
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 morboComplete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
00000 | said by druber:It's also not really fair to compare a large, spread-out country like the US to, say, Japan or South Korea, where it isn't hard to provide high-speed BW to the public, due to population density. i hear this excuse a lot. if true,
that would mean that places in the u.s. that have high density should have speeds and prices on par with japan or south korea. 50-100mb symmetrical speeds, for a reasonable price.
that isn't the case so i don't think the excuse is valid. |
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 DaSneaky1Done wall to block them allPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou
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| True. Asian countries build metro area Ethernet networks...and most of their traffic is either totally on-net, or comes from local peers with very high capacity ports.
These metro networks here in the US are typically business class.
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 dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | reply to Insider101
said by Insider101:Who cares about symmetrical speeds? I do!
Try backing up, Offsite, 9-12GB files over... 768kbps... 1.5mbps...
Even at your upload speeds, it would be painful!
Yeah, I sure would like 10x10 or ??x?? speeds available to me!
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
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said by druber:It's also not really fair to compare a large, spread-out country like the US to, say, Japan or South Korea, where it isn't hard to provide high-speed BW to the public, due to population density. I'm tired of hearing this excuse, because that's what it is.
Sure, we can't expect the ENTIRE USA landmass to have the same access as a smaller, densely populated country... However that argument falls on it's face when it comes to many US cities. The population density is fine, so if that reason was to be true, many US Cities would also have 100/100 connections for $25-$30 a month. They don't.... which means far more then just "geographical" or "population density" is in play. Namely our incumbent service providers.
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 dvWhat was that?Premium
join:2005-04-19
Goleta, CA | reply to dadkins
seconded |
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Personally, I put the blame entirely on ISPs who offer it as a secondary, hook-in service to their primary business.
Maybe what's needed, is ISPs who are just ISPs, who don't have to install a ton of extra hardware that is unrelated to providing pure internet access.
And while at it, make them have a smaller area. Let there be one or two smaller companies trying to fight for control of a large, high density city like NYC. They'll come up with ways to improve service AND reduce costs.
Up here in Calgary, where I live, I've seen things like that attempted.. only for the smaller providers to be bought up by Telus, effectively merging a superior service into an inferior provider at higher cost with higher bloat and upkeep.
It's happened since the days of 28.8k dialup, and unfortunately I don't see it changing any time soon. Even wireless is being swallowed up by Rogers and Telus, cutting all the smaller players right out of the market, and creating a duopoly in each sector, with no reason to change.
Here, there's exactly 2 broadband choices. Shaw and Telus. I'm just glad one of them is actually worth the money(I have never had any of the typical "overloaded node" problems one hears complained about constantly, for cable service. If I did, I might think twice). |
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