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Jason Levine
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Re: greed, greed, greed!

Either way, it won't accomplish anything against the RIAA. The best that they can hope for is that their stunt will get some PR which will bring the issue to more people's minds. I don't think that John Q Surfer really cares much about it though. (This isn't to say that I support the RIAA in this matter -- I don't -- or that it isn't important. Just that most people don't see the importance of this and will go back to debating about "more important" things like American Idol, Paris Hilton, and Danny Lynn etc.)


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actually, its more like gas stations refusing to turn on pumps on a certain day.

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LMAO. Yeppers. He should have purchased "new" copies of those 1000 songs via iTunes or another paid service. Think of the profits lost!
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Last I checked, transferring legally bought and paid for CD's with no DRM on them to my computer for my use is perfectly legal. Even under the DMCA.
Back in February of last year, the recording industry released a statement that declared that customers don't have the built-in right to rip their CDs even for personal use.

said by »arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20···190.html :

The real kicker is buried in a footnote, where the joint reply suggests the unthinkable: that making copies of CDs for any purpose may, in fact, be infringement.

Nor does the fact that permission to make a copy in particular circumstances is often or even "routinely" granted, see C6 at 8, necessarily establish that the copying is a fair use when the copyright owner withholds that authorization. In this regard, the statement attributed to counsel for copyright holders in the Grokster case, is simply a statement about authorization, not about fair use.
Allow me to translate: just because people have been copying CDs in the past doesn't mean that that they had the authorization to do so, and a general trend does not override such explicit authorization.
So, according to that statement, you're infringing their copyright.

Of course, 1) they'll never be able to codify this opinion into law and 2) even if they did, there would be no way to catch personal rippers.


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So they go off the air for a day. Who cares. I guess I'll just have to listen to the 1000 songs I transferred from my CD collection to the computer. And this is the music I like and listen to anyway - 50's to 70's oldies.
You mean the music you transferred against the wishes of the recording industry and possibly in violation of the DMCA? Tsk tsk.
Last I checked, transferring legally bought and paid for CD's with no DRM on them to my computer for my use is perfectly legal. Even under the DMCA.
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I guess I'll just have to listen to the 1000 songs I transferred from my CD collection to the computer.
Pirate alert! Pirate alert! Quick. Somebody call the RIAA lawyers and alert them to this profound act of piracy! It's killing the music industry! You should be ashamed of yourself for contributing to the death of the music industry.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

So they go off the air for a day. Who cares. I guess I'll just have to listen to the 1000 songs I transferred from my CD collection to the computer. And this is the music I like and listen to anyway - 50's to 70's oldies.
You mean the music you transferred against the wishes of the recording industry and possibly in violation of the DMCA? Tsk tsk.


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Yeah - this seems kinda like telling everyone not to purchase gas on a certain day. That's always gone over real well.
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So they go off the air for a day. Who cares. I guess I'll just have to listen to the 1000 songs I transferred from my CD collection to the computer. And this is the music I like and listen to anyway - 50's to 70's oldies.
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