moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to markopoleo
Re: If people are still getting spam..
said by markopoleo  :They deserve it. In this day and age, no reason you should be getting spam still. I think all that spam is filling empty email accounts long forgotten. Wrong as usual, thanks for playing.
I did an experiment. A blank comcast email and a blank Google gmail account. Both had spam in less than a week. Not one thing was sent from either account nor was it used anywhere to sign up for anything. These were entered and left.
Try again.  |
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internetspec
join:2007-04-19
Calgary, AB | So what you are saying is that Google & Comcast are selling your e-mail address? Sorry, I'm not buying it. I think it's more likely that your machine is compromised. |
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MacTire
join:2007-06-22
Morristown, TN
| reply to moonpuppy
It has a lot to do with easy to guess email account names. I have had an Yahoo account for 3 years and have had only 2 spam messages in this time. It is the same with picking names as it is passwords; don't use word or word-number combo. Use a phrase instead. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to internetspec
said by internetspec :So what you are saying is that Google & Comcast are selling your e-mail address? Sorry, I'm not buying it. I think it's more likely that your machine is compromised. Wrong again. Where did I say that Google and Comcast sold my email info?
Spammers will use dictionary type attacks when looking for emails.
aaaaa@aol.com
aaaab@aol.com
and so on.
Machine is not compromised and all AV software is up to date. |
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markopoleo
join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
 ·Charter Pipeline
| reply to moonpuppy
said by moonpuppy :said by markopoleo :They deserve it. In this day and age, no reason you should be getting spam still. I think all that spam is filling empty email accounts long forgotten. Wrong as usual, thanks for playing. I did an experiment. A blank comcast email and a blank Google gmail account. Both had spam in less than a week. Not one thing was sent from either account nor was it used anywhere to sign up for anything. These were entered and left. Try again. Try again? Sure. How come out of 10 email accounts I have (3 are gmail), zero spam with 8 years?
Do do try again. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
1 edit | said by markopoleo :Try again? Sure. How come out of 10 email accounts I have (3 are gmail), zero spam with 8 years? Do do try again. Sure, I believe you like I believed your statement about Europe using DC power instead of AC.
In fact, at my work, spam tries to get through and these accounts are not even a week old. Our filter gets most of them and they are taken care of but the fact that these emails are new and never been used tells me that spammers are using some sort of sequential system for email addresses. |
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Time4aNAP
Premium
join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL
| reply to moonpuppy
said by moonpuppy :Spammers will use dictionary type attacks when looking for emails. aaaaa@aol.com aaaab@aol.com and so on. Actually that's the "brute-force" technique, not dictionary. Dictionary attacks are used most often to guess passwords. The most sophisticated spam engines use a combination of dictionary and brute-force methods, with dictionaries containing more family and given names, and using permutations based on people's names. For example, the traditional first-initial, last-name username, and the more recent first-name dot last-name e-mail prefix are common targets.
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Time4aNAP
Premium
join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL
3 edits | reply to markopoleo
said by markopoleo :Try again? Sure. How come out of 10 email accounts I have (3 are gmail), zero spam with 8 years? Ah...gmail hasn't been around for eight years, for starters.
Frankly I don't believe your claim. I've already shown one reason why it's not true, so it's not even a matter of whether. That leaves "why". Why would you make such a ridiculously bogus claim? Well, you might be one of the suckers who bought a very expensive CD containing e-mail addresses, and now you're using the same quality of judgment to somehow "make a right" by increasing the number of "wrongs". Maybe you're just lonely and crave attention. [CENSORED by "System"]
I personally don't care what your motives are. It's enough that there are many likely motives, and, as I mentioned before, you haven't had three gmail accounts for eight years, period. Neither has your recent Charter Pipeline account been active for eight years, per your own review.
Now, do you want to get real, and join the discussion? Or do you want to persist, in which case many of us will treat your posts like so much spam... |
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rmdir
join:2003-03-13
Chicago, IL | reply to Time4aNAP
Or they try names likely to be in use such as mail@, webmaster@, sales@ etc. I've disabled my catch all account for now, but I've seen countless spam using all the above when it's turned on. |
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Time4aNAP
Premium
join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL
| I see surprisingly little spam in my administrative (abuse, hostmaster, postmaster etc.) accounts. It is amusing to see the nonexistent addresses that they do try to reach, though. Reading the bounce logs can be downright entertaining at times.  |
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Time4aNAP
Premium
join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL
|  reply to Time4aNAP
Dear "System"
Because there is no such user as "System", and no facility to reply to comments from "System" in private, I will post it here.
System, you need to learn the difference between "blatant flaming" and a list of very realistic possibilities. How dare you tell me to "Watch it with the personal insults." when it is you who are insulting my personal intelligence.
I'm a paying customer. You owe me an apology. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| Agreed.
I made the same comment before about mods who will not identify themselves when "moderating" posts.
And before we here anything from phantom system again, I am a mod on another board and I NEVER moderate anyone without identifying myself. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to Time4aNAP
Re: If people are still getting spam..
said by Time4aNAP :I see surprisingly little spam in my administrative (abuse, hostmaster, postmaster etc.) accounts. It is amusing to see the nonexistent addresses that they do try to reach, though. Reading the bounce logs can be downright entertaining at times. Same thing happens here. |
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