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SunRocket out of money?

In his subscription only Daily T1R, Daniel Berringer postulates that SunRocket may have their lights turned out soon. It seems the reports I've been hearing around the Valley are that their CEO has been on the "money trail" around Silicon Valley, but not getting any takers.

»andyabramson.blogs.com/voipwatch···r_p.html

voiplover
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Re: SunRocket out of money?

Duh!

After the venture capital is gone, the party is over, and
the last one left at the table gets stuck with the bill.

With the expense of acquiring and keeping voip customers to build a survivable reoccurring revenue base, show me a provider that isn't running on lean after 3 years.

Thanks for the link.
cbrain

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This is all very interesting, but, what about my free sig number?
jduffy

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Wow, I'm glad I got out of CrapRocket a little over a week ago. Number was ported to Vonage and if I need to, I can port that to AT&T CallVantage (CV could not port from CrapRocket, so the interim step was needed to Vonage as CV can port from Vonage).

This is the reason I will never pay for a service up-front. Sure it may cost a bit more, but when they go under and you cannot get your free year, you just don't really save that much.
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Re: SunRocket out of money?

said by jduffy See Profile :

This is the reason I will never pay for a service up-front. Sure it may cost a bit more, but when they go under and you cannot get your free year, you just don't really save that much.
Some risks are worth taking. Paying up front for 2 years at SR (as I did) costs the same as 8 months of going month-to-month. So if the company can survive for more than 8 months one is ahead by paying up front even if you don't get the full 2 years of service.

$24.95 per month is not just a "bit more" than $8.29 per month.
slow mo

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It's a blog. Anybody can say whatever they want. Not that I think SR is in good shape, the entire VoIP industry does not pose a rosy picture, too many players.

RockyBB
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CEOs are always on the hunt for cheap cash -- that's their job. I wouldn't read too much into that -- when they come back with 2 for 1 offers to try to pry $199 from a few extra new customers, that would be a more telling sign of an impending problem.
rizzo2dial
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Re: SunRocket out of money?

said by RockyBB See Profile :

when they come back with 2 for 1 offers to try to pry $199 from a few extra new customers, that would be a more telling sign of an impending problem.
Based on that logic, VT should be ready to shut its doors. On the other hand, should SR permit existing customers to participate in upcoming 2-for-1 deals, that could be a telling sign.

RockyBB
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Re: SunRocket out of money?

said by rizzo2dial See Profile :

Based on that logic, VT should be ready to shut its doors.
That's too much of a stretch for me ... SR had at least a year head start on VT ... wouldn't be a shock if VT soon slowed its use of that promo as SR did last fall ... also, VT is a side business of another successful (we're told) enterprise, so there could be some subsidization going on ... SR is standalone with no other business units to help with the cash flow, or to offset or share expenses ...
rizzo2dial
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Re: SunRocket out of money?

said by RockyBB See Profile :

SR is standalone with no other business units to help with the cash flow, or to offset or share expenses ...
What??? You mean SR isn't an aeronautics firm running a VoIP business on the side as a means of developing/bolstering communications for their eventual solar missions on Sun Rockets?
B
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Re: SunRocket out of money?

Speaking of which, I don't think we spend nearly enough time on the whole Sunrocket/Hostrocket naming weirdness...



Perhaps more interesting to me is that this thread was apparently in jail for a while last night; it showed up linked but was not accessible.

-- B
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In a realm outside causality and function

RockyBB
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I stand corrected (again). I had always thought the name was a realization of an old Pink Floyd song... "set the controls for the heart of the sun"

pitroad01

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SunRocket out of money ? NOT .... I just gave them $214.11 back in April.

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Re: SunRocket out of money?

I'm also a contributor.

koam
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Love to watch it die. It certainly deserves it.

Stupid, lying, incompetents.

Is this any way to run a phone company....into the ground?
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Re: SunRocket out of money?

said by koam See Profile :

Love to watch it die. It certainly deserves it.

Stupid, lying, incompetents.

Is this any way to run a phone company....into the ground?
We keep coming back to the same issue....if SR is as bad as you keep repeating for the last year or so, why haven't you bailed out yet?

It does appear that they were absent for the business 101 classes, but as strange as it may sound, for me, the service works quite well. As I have said, I don't need but a very few of the features, and those have worked. The fail safe feature would be nice, but again, I live very well with the SimRing, and even if the portal is down, I have called in to support and they switch it right over for me.

Hopefully they will continue to remain in business and not be affected by the Verizon/Vonage battle that went to court today.
slow mo

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Re: SunRocket out of money?

said by burris See Profile :

said by koam See Profile :

Love to watch it die. It certainly deserves it.

Stupid, lying, incompetents.

Is this any way to run a phone company....into the ground?
We keep coming back to the same issue....if SR is as bad as you keep repeating for the last year or so, why haven't you bailed out yet?

It does appear that they were absent for the business 101 classes, but as strange as it may sound, for me, the service works quite well. As I have said, I don't need but a very few of the features, and those have worked. The fail safe feature would be nice, but again, I live very well with the SimRing, and even if the portal is down, I have called in to support and they switch it right over for me.

Hopefully they will continue to remain in business and not be affected by the Verizon/Vonage battle that went to court today.
I cannot agree more. My SR phone works very well. I don't understand why people bash it all the time.

For people having SR and complain about it, one advice, MOVE ON. There are plenty of players out there. I will too if my SR sound quality starts to degrade.

Checksinthemail

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I am a creditor of SunRocket and for what it is worth, they have not paid me for months! To say the least, I am disgusted with the company.
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Re: SunRocket out of money?

said by Checksinthemail :

I am a creditor of SunRocket and for what it is worth, they have not paid me for months! To say the least, I am disgusted with the company.
Barter your claim with SunRocket for prepaid phone service futures, then sell it to Blue Cat.

10414459

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Well since I am prepaid until 2014 I suppose that I have a problem. Perhaps I should have listened to Christcorp. I think that I will sell my contract on eBay.

The Beer
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Re: SunRocket out of money?

said by 10414459 See Profile :

Well since I am prepaid until 2014 I suppose that I have a problem. Perhaps I should have listened to Christcorp. I think that I will sell my contract on eBay.
You did not seriously give them $700 did you?

So when they do belly up, wonder what happens to our service/numbers?

I don't really think they have any chance of coming out of bankruptcy, how does the switch get pulled in the end?

I don't see why Vonage or anyone else would take on the debt of all these contracts without any revenue coming in.

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Re: SunRocket out of money?

said by The Beer See Profile :

So when they do belly up, wonder what happens to our service/numbers?
If the close the doors, you are SOL, even if it is a number you have had for years.
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The Beer
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Re: SunRocket out of money?

Well I doubt that will happen with so many numbers that have been ported in.

Something tells me Level 3 (or whoever their termination partner) has a specific clause in their contract that says they can terminate the contract, then contact the end user directly if there is breach.

Obviously Level 3 will not want to do this directly however they may sell you to someone.

I have contracts with termination carriers that have that clause.

10414459

join:2007-04-23
Key West, FL

What makes you think that they will close the doors? I believe that they are simply clearing some deadwood from their staff so that they may continue to grow.

Should Vonage go belly up, SunRocket would be a prime beneficiary as it is now the VOIP leader.

voiplover
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Re: SunRocket out of money?

said by 10414459 See Profile :

...Should Vonage go belly up, SunRocket would be a prime beneficiary as it is now the VOIP leader.
Not to bust your bubble, But SR is not even close to being the 'VOIP leader.'

They have however brought a got amount of residential users to market with low price offerings. I'm just surprised that they don't care to keep them.

redshift
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Re: SunRocket out of money?

Judging by the posts in this forum you wouldn't get a good picture of Sunrocket, but out on the rest of the net surprisingly Sunrocket is regarded pretty well. Om Malik thinks pretty highly of them (saw a post on his gigom site) as well as the myvoipprovider website...they are rated as one of the top 100 voip providers.
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said by The Beer See Profile :

said by 10414459 See Profile :

Well since I am prepaid until 2014 I suppose that I have a problem. Perhaps I should have listened to Christcorp. I think that I will sell my contract on eBay.
You did not seriously give them $700 did you?

So when they do belly up, wonder what happens to our service/numbers?

I don't really think they have any chance of coming out of bankruptcy, how does the switch get pulled in the end?

I don't see why Vonage or anyone else would take on the debt of all these contracts without any revenue coming in.
Yep, this is our friendly troll under another nick, who tried to convince all of us that we should keep buying in to SR because they were the best-run VOIP . If they take a dump, I wonder if he'll be singing the same song as an unsecured creditor in bankruptcy court.

10414459

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Re: SunRocket out of money?

SunRocket's death is greatly exaggerated. For me, it has been a fine service. This is my third year as a subscriber and I have experienced very few problems.

In the unlikely event that SunRocket were to go out of business, I would be disappointed however, you win some and you lose some.

C'est la vie.

JoeG4

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This forum has a ridiculous, ridiculous amount of VT trolls. Seriously, I've never seen so many.

I haven't seen ONE thread go by without someone mentioning ViaTalk

A mod should censor it or something.

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Re: SunRocket out of money?

said by JoeG4 See Profile :

This forum has a ridiculous, ridiculous amount of VT trolls. Seriously, I've never seen so many.

I haven't seen ONE thread go by without someone mentioning ViaTalk

A mod should censor it or something.
Interesting, I don't see anyone trolling for them here. The reason VT is mentioned along with SR (in vice versa I would add) is because they both offer two for one deals quite regularly and that can make a good base for comparison.

Each and every provider has their days in the limelight and the days on the bottom of the well.
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said by JoeG4 See Profile :

This forum has a ridiculous, ridiculous amount of VT trolls. Seriously, I've never seen so many.

I haven't seen ONE thread go by without someone mentioning ViaTalk

A mod should censor it or something.
You could help us out by hey modding those threads.
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