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MrMoody
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France?!

We're being beaten by France, a country where most people don't even have air conditioning?

Vamp
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Re: France?!

Yeah this is a load of bullshit..

Square mile my ass, we are completely equal to them countries in workers:square mile ratio, there is no excuses for our lacking in broadband.

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johnh123

join:2002-11-19
Chicago, IL

Re: France?!

said by Vamp:

Square mile my ass, we are completely equal to them countries in workers:square mile ratio, there is no excuses for our lacking in broadband.

We don't need excuses because we aren't lacking in broadband speeds. As the earlier poster said, checkout speedtest.net

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France regulatory authority has forced the local monopoly to unbundle its last mile, hence the surge in speeds and decrease in prices. In France like anywhere else, more competition means better services for less money. Duh!

Rob
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said by MrMoody:

We're being beaten by France, a country where most people don't even have air conditioning?
That article is from 2003. And most places in Europe don't have central A/C.
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TigerLord
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Re: France?!

Do your research a little better and you will find why most of us don't have A/C and why it's a luxury.

We pay around 0,17€/kW for electricity here, and my A/C machine uses ~2,4kW per hour. So leaving it on only for 8 hours a day still costs me about 100€ (about 130$US) in electricity cost per month to keep it running... leaving it on 24/7 would cost me around 360$US a month just for the A/C. Remember that I live in a 1 1/2 apartment and have a relatively small and economical machine, houses who have central A/C pay anywhere from 400-700EUR per month to have A/C on.

Re-evaluate that statement now !

ninjatutle
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Re: France?!

Do you have a washing machine in your kitchen too?

TigerLord
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Re: France?!

I'm afraid not

ninjatutle
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Re: France?!

Why do European homes have that? I always see it in the kitchen under the counter or in the bathroom.

TigerLord
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Re: France?!

Picture? Dishwasher isn't a luxury like A/C is, the fact I don't have one (simply don't need it) doesn't reflect anything, I had one when I lived in Germany.

ninjatutle
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Re: France?!

No, I'm talking about a clothes washing machine in the kitchen. Everytime I see a European house on tv, there's alway washing machine installed in the kitchen.

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Tzale
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said by TigerLord:

Do your research a little better and you will find why most of us don't have A/C and why it's a luxury.

We pay around 0,17€/kW for electricity here, and my A/C machine uses ~2,4kW per hour. So leaving it on only for 8 hours a day still costs me about 100€ (about 130$US) in electricity cost per month to keep it running... leaving it on 24/7 would cost me around 360$US a month just for the A/C. Remember that I live in a 1 1/2 apartment and have a relatively small and economical machine, houses who have central A/C pay anywhere from 400-700EUR per month to have A/C on.

Re-evaluate that statement now !
Thank God my ancestors decided to move to America.

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TigerLord
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Re: France?!

Coming back home in Montreal in August after three years over here - rent will be twice as cheap, double the space

FiL
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lol, but your ignorant to the fact that European's get paid lotttttts more on average then Pilgrims...

Tzale
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Re: France?!

said by FiL:

lol, but your ignorant to the fact that European's get paid lotttttts more on average then Pilgrims...
Yeah, but the cost of living is still higher. That's true, just like how people in the New York Metro area (Northern NJ where I live) are paid much more than in middle America, but we also pay a lot to live here. In the end, the dollar goes much farther in America than Europe.

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Time4aNAP
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said by TigerLord:

We pay around 0,17€/kW for electricity here...
Well, all you have to do is rip up your lovely countryside, find some nice, dirty coal, and burn that for electricity. Problem solved! For the near-term, that is...

Rob
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said by TigerLord:

Do your research a little better and you will find why most of us don't have A/C and why it's a luxury.

We pay around 0,17€/kW for electricity here, and my A/C machine uses ~2,4kW per hour. So leaving it on only for 8 hours a day still costs me about 100€ (about 130$US) in electricity cost per month to keep it running... leaving it on 24/7 would cost me around 360$US a month just for the A/C. Remember that I live in a 1 1/2 apartment and have a relatively small and economical machine, houses who have central A/C pay anywhere from 400-700EUR per month to have A/C on.

Re-evaluate that statement now !
I wasn't putting Europe down. I'm European. It's the ignorant America who don't know how the rest of the world operates.
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TigerLord
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Re: France?!

My response was aiming at MrMoody , my bad ! Guess as a mod I should know better by now, huh ? It's Justin's fault

What's the difference between kW/h and kW ???

Rob
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Re: France?!

said by TigerLord:

My response was aiming at MrMoody , my bad ! Guess as a mod I should know better by now, huh ? It's Justin's fault

What's the difference between kW/h and kW ???
What is the difference between kW/h and kW and how much do they cost?

* kW/h is the measurement unit of energy consumption and it is equivalent to one kW of absorbed power during one hour.
* kW is the measurement unit of the absorbed power.

For example: A light bulb of 0.1kW (100 W) power used for 10 hours will result in a 1kW/h consumption to be billed.
KW/h price depends on the client’s rate.

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DustinR

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Ottawa, IL
They charge you by the kilowatt not by the kilowatt hour in Europe?? Man you guys over there really get ripped off buying gas in liters and getting charged by the kw. What a load of crap.

Scree
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Mount Laurel, NJ
I guess uncomfortable and having a few extra bucks outweighs being comfortable and unable to, what, eat 7 days a week? Is it that extreme? LOL
Time4aNAP
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said by Rob:

...And most places in Europe don't have central A/C.
Americans tend to forget that Europeans still inhabit dwellings that were constructed hundreds, even thousands of years ago. It's often difficult to fit air conditioning to buildings that were designed before electricity was a utility. And France's climate isn't often that severe.

Chicago suffered a record number of heat-related deaths not too long ago, and its broadband options suck. Wha's the excuse for that?

jester121
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Re: France?!

We have the Cubs.
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Waltham, MA
Not so much because of electricity prices - but more to do with the fact that the summer climate in central europe is nothing like as brutal (humidity wise) as it is in much of the US. New York is at the same latitude as Rome, which is pretty far south, and much of western europe gets ocean currents from the Atlantic, the same way OR/WA does from the Pacific.

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