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Re: Speedtest.net's global results say differently said by spg:Okay then. There we have it! We will oppose raising internet speeds just because the union for the telephone workers want more work for their members! Let's all get slower speed packages until that union is destroyed!!! Good grief. Give me a break. You folks want more bandwidth, but you don't want people earning decent wages to provide it. Would slave labor be better? The average CWA member at Verizon made $53,000/yr in 2003 and their contract called for a 10.6% increase over the next 4 yrs and has fully paid by the company health benefits.
Sure sounds like slave wages to me./sarcasm
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said by fAcEtIOUs:The average CWA member at Verizon made $53,000/yr in 2003 and their contract called for a 10.6% increase over the next 4 yrs and has fully paid by the company health benefits. The poorly educated and technically unskilled will always complain about how much money someone else makes rather than do anything to increase their own skill set.
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Making middle class wages and actually having insurance? The problem with that is? |
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| said by 59126125:Making middle class wages and actually having insurance? The problem with that is? Because it goes against the modern Corporate mantra!
These days employees should work long hard hours and be paid a pittance. Hell, they are lucky these generous companies even hire them, they should donate most their work for free out of gratitude!
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said by fAcEtIOUs:The average CWA member at Verizon made $53,000/yr in 2003 and their contract called for a 10.6% increase over the next 4 yrs and has fully paid by the company health benefits. That's 2.55% annual. That's not very much. And I thought reducing health benefits was one of the concessions Verizon received in the last contract...?
$53k does not even seem like much considering the average experience level... but it is still definitely not slave labor.
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lol, exactly my sentiments...slave labor, slave labor, slave labor for all! Again...! For the 3rd time!
Makes me sick...These guys get paid the bare minimum to live out the aMurrrikan dream if those stats are correct tch... |
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East Orange, NJ | reply to John Galt
said by John Galt:said by fAcEtIOUs:The average CWA member at Verizon made $53,000/yr in 2003 and their contract called for a 10.6% increase over the next 4 yrs and has fully paid by the company health benefits. The poorly educated and technically unskilled will always complain about how much money someone else makes rather than do anything to increase their own skill set. That sure sounds like SARCASM to me! U know nothing about this guy or how much he makes in his life or what he does.
$53,000 is decent for any low budget bum like a telephone company worker.
No one told them to go buy a house, get some hooker pregnant, then marry her, and have 12 more kids to feed. Buy 2 LUXURY cars, and then refuse to pay the bills when they get out of control. Come on, Americans can do things to control their own, but the average bum just sits on sites like this and all they do is talk and talk about improvement.
HELL, WE ALREADY KNOW THIS REPORT IS NOT 100% TRUE! Shut this down already!
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You do realize that you are paying for that salary through your bill, right?
Regardless of the cost of labor, unions are businesses in themselves. They make their money by legally extorting it from other businesses, but regardless of how they make their money, this bill is meant by no means to benefit this union's members. It is meant to benefit the union, namely the wallets of those running it, as if telecommunicatons companies had more broadband customers, they would need more employees and if they need more employees, those new employees (who will likely be coercised into joining the union should they refuse upon the first offer) will pay union dues, which increases union revenues, making those running the union wealther as they will have more money in the union treasury that can be lost due to things that will be said to be "overhead."
By the way, if companies did not pay enough for workers to earn a living, their workers would quit. Imagine how long a company will last if it announced that it will begin paying all of its employees a salary of $1 a year. The market determines how much people are paid; unions attempt to manipulate that to earn money, like all businesses in their position would. |
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You actually think that if the market is good, companies would generously give the employees a fat raise? That's funny.
It would be in the best interest of all workers for the Unions to have more members and a stronger influence. Unions are not perfect like everything else, but they are about the only way for the little guy to demand a decent living in exchange for making a corporation millions. |
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said by AnonymousPerson :
You do realize that you are paying for that salary through your bill, right? I think the CEO's compensation and retirement package cost me more on my bill then 1000 CWA workers do....
Unions do not extort money from other businesses. They leverage their member's labor value to gain more return for the workers.
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