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jc100

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The Truth

People here do not think for a second. If you hate unions so much, then I hope you are willing to trade everything you cherish about your job. Most jobs are unionized and only have the luxuries as a result of them. Try looking back at America just one century ago. Work weeks were 7 days. There were no holidays or paid vacation. Sick time meant cutting off your arm and being fired. If you died, tough luck to your family. There were no causes of liabilities. Children worked in mines and were expected to carry their weight as equally as an adult. Don't believe me? Go look up the statistics of children employed around 1900. I think if i recall it was someone around two million. »www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAchild.htm

Likewise, try reading Upton Sinclair's The Jungle. People were shredded in meat packing plants and the food still served. Conditions were atrocious.

Fast Forward to the future. We now have unions that have gotten us five day a week work hours. We now have many jobs that pay decent living wages to people who have them. These jobs provide health care to the individuals. Best of all, these jobs are in America. So before you moan about how much these people make, try thinking for one second the skill they must have to perform them. Teachers are a great example. A teacher starting out with 6 years of education in Ohio (BA. + MA) will make 35-40,000 a year. Yet, someone else in a different field with the same education will make much more. While some jobs are still underpaid to skill (Like Teachers), there are many that paying appropriately. Sadly, it's people like TCH without a real clue on life that make some asinine remarks a. What do you recommend we pay them? How about work you to death and pay you 7.25 / HR. You know, why not? Your statement seems to say people with training and skill deserve the least possible salary.

As for who is behind this report, well it does play a role. Still, what they are advocating isn't bad. Why shouldn't these companies provide more? Our cities are just as dense if not more than many of those with 10+mbit. Check outour population density on Wikipedia and compare it to Seoul and other major cities. You'll see its right on par. The excuse major areas of the U.S. are not as dense as those others is a LIE and an EXCUSE. Hate to break it to you, we are about the same and more in spots. Go justify that one. It's the shills and lobbyists at the Teclos though that'd have you believe otherwise. For once, I am all for holding them up to providing more speed for my money!

Time4aNAP
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join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL

As a (currently) non-unionized, college-educated technology worker who, due to abuse of the salary system, made less per hour than blue-collar unionized electricians, I'm all too aware of how it was/is before/after unions came in/went out.

The day that I go back to work as a corporate IT employee is the day that I do so in an IBEW shop, for hourly wages. When the current generation of 20-somethings who make up the bulk of the IT population settle down, get married and start families, the number of people willing to work 140 hour weeks in the mistaken hope of gaining recognition and promotion will drop like a rock. When that happens, I'll be more than happy to introduce them to the benefits of collective bargaining.

The IBEW and NABET were good to me when I was in broadcasting. I'm loyal to them because they were loyal to me.


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