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en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
reply to David
Re: Only have seen two stations...

Tom Leykis didn't shutdown his web version.
»www.blowmeuptom.com

john262

join:2003-09-26
Elko, NV
·Wireless Beehive

reply to N10Cities
Many but not all stations listed on the Shoutcast Directory are based in other countries and therefore might not be subject to the CRB ruling that is being protested by the Day of Silence. Also, there are a lot of "pirate stations" in the directory that don't pay any royalties and just don't care.

Time4aNAP
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join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL

reply to disc
Re: Irony

said by disc See Profile :

The second point is noble, but the first one certainly hits their bottom line. I would think it would hit all college stations that webcast too.
Not really. The station's rate card is based on OTA listeners, not the Internet listenership. Some advertisers might pay a token fee for the extra exposure from webcasts, but nothing compared to what they pay for the Nielsen and/or Arbitron rated coverage.

Up until now, streaming has been an inexpensive way to promote your station. If and when it stops being inexpensive, terrestrial broadcasters will simply stop streaming. That means that you'll no longer be able to listen to your favorite hometown radio station when you're on vacation, but it's no real loss for the station itself.

disc

join:2005-12-31
Raleigh, NC

reply to Time4aNAP
said by Time4aNAP See Profile :

As a licensed terrestrial radio broadcaster, WFMU is exempt from the back-breaking royalty rates. It's nice to have their support, but ironic since they have nothing to lose.
Good point. I followed one of their links and they had this to say:

WFMU believes in compensating artists. We currently pay webcasting royalties to SoundExchange and will continue to do so, but we are protesting the new rate scheme for a number of reasons:

1. Under the new rates, non-commercial webcasters only get a break on the commercial royalty rate if they maintain small listenership numbers. In order to afford the astronomical new rates, WFMU may have to cap online listenership on our streams, limiting our accessibility to music fans.

2. SoundExchange has not been dutifully distributing webcasting royalties to artists, claiming on their website that they are unable to locate thousands of artists including Kraftwerk, The Replacements, Pizzicato Five, The Muffs, and even Warren G!


The second point is noble, but the first one certainly hits their bottom line. I would think it would hit all college stations that webcast too.

Time4aNAP
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join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL
reply to disc
As a licensed terrestrial radio broadcaster, WFMU is exempt from the back-breaking royalty rates. It's nice to have their support, but ironic since they have nothing to lose.

Time4aNAP
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join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL
reply to N10Cities
Re: Only have seen two stations...

Radio Paradise is playing ambient jungle noises, not their usual fare.


David
No,there is another.
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Granite City, IL
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reply to PhoenixDown
said by PhoenixDown See Profile :

Digitally Imported is not broadcasting and they have some of the top stations on shoutcast.
I agree there some of the stuff I listen too is digitally imported.


Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA
reply to disc
Now that would be an effective protest. Declare a "Week of the Independent" and only play non-RIAA artists. A little research on Amie Street and eMusic and I'm sure they could easily get a week's worth of songs.


N10Cities
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reply to disc
said by disc See Profile :

said by N10Cities See Profile :

... doesn't look like many stations are interested...
WFMU is "on air", and they're pointedly only playing material not from the RIAA/SoundExchange catalog. In WFMU's case, that's probably not hard. Other stations may be doing the same.

The WFMU DJ is talking the issue up between songs too.
Ah! That may be it! My mistake


AnonProxy
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reply to N10Cities
Then you haven't looked too hard have you?

Just go to the website to see the list of who's participating...

disc

join:2005-12-31
Raleigh, NC

reply to N10Cities
said by N10Cities See Profile :

... doesn't look like many stations are interested...
WFMU is "on air", and they're pointedly only playing material not from the RIAA/SoundExchange catalog. In WFMU's case, that's probably not hard. Other stations may be doing the same.

The WFMU DJ is talking the issue up between songs too.


texans20
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reply to Yauch
Live365.com, shoutcast.com, most important music.yahoo.com is not broadcasting or has a huge message. Shoutcast.com's homepage was the most impressive. music.yahoo.com, however, are hiding it until you try to stream one of their stations. Trying to stream won't work, you'll get a message.

It's a lot more than two stations. People at work, normal everyday non-nerds who just stream music in the office are talking about this now.


PhoenixDown
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reply to N10Cities
Digitally Imported is not broadcasting and they have some of the top stations on shoutcast.
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Yauch

join:2005-06-24
reply to N10Cities
Pandora's on board too. I'll miss those guys.


N10Cities
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participate so far.....SKY.FM and ASF (Atlantic Sound Factory) after browsing Shoutcast for a bit (there may be more that don't use Shoutcast that may be doing it)....doesn't look like many stations are interested...
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