 JeffreyWilpon please sell the MetsPremium
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| Unlimited :) So what are the limits on the unlimited data? Anyone find it yet in the small print? I have a feeling we're going to see one of those invisible verizon unlimited limits. May be I'm wrong, but come on--no such thing as unlimited. 
I'll say it again, I like the way that phone looks and I hope Apple does well with it. The geek factor seems pretty high on it, but it's just not for me. |
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Riverhead, NY | I use plenty of data on AT&T, and have never seen a "letter".
Is using iTunes OPTIONAL to activate the phone? Geez...I guess that Apple/AT&T figured calling a number was too hard.... |
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said by Jeffrey:So what are the limits on the unlimited data? Anyone find it yet in the small print? I have a feeling we're going to see one of those invisible verizon unlimited limits. May be I'm wrong, but come on--no such thing as unlimited. Actually, AT&T could probably get away with billing the service as unlimited without actually cracking down on people. EDGE is so slow (80kbps, I don't know how they made up 200kpbs) that there is no way most users will reach any limit. Even if a user is on the data connection continuously, the worst they will do is download about 25MB to 26MB a month. This assumes 80kbps as the speed, 86400 seconds in a day, 30 days in a month, 8 bits in a byte and 1048576 bytes to a megabyte.
ed. Bad Math - blame lack of coffee.
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kudos:12 | said by pnh102:said by Jeffrey:So what are the limits on the unlimited data? Anyone find it yet in the small print? I have a feeling we're going to see one of those invisible verizon unlimited limits. May be I'm wrong, but come on--no such thing as unlimited. Actually, AT&T could probably get away with billing the service as unlimited without actually cracking down on people. EDGE is so slow (80kbps, I don't know how they made up 200kpbs) that there is no way most users will reach any limit. Even if a user is on the data connection continuously, the worst they will do is download about 25MB to 26MB a month. This assumes 80kbps as the speed, 86400 seconds in a day, 30 days in a month, 8 bits in a byte and 1048576 bytes to a megabyte. What is that, the ONE YouTube video they are touting in their commercial?
"This is YouTube on your phone. It'll take a month to buffer before you can watch it, but it'll eventually come in."
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | said by Matt:What is that, the ONE YouTube video they are touting in their commercial? Perhaps they have it cached in the device
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25-26GB |
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | Yea you're right... I forgot to convert kb to b (and multiply by 1024).
I guess AT&T will be cracking down on unlimited users then 
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 ColorBASIC8-bit FunPremium
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Corona, CA | reply to fcisler
Ditto, I've never gotten a letter either and I've had months where I downloaded a bunch of stuff.
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ColorBASIC8-bit FunPremium
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Corona, CA | reply to pnh102
They haven't yet. I haven't, nor have I heard of anyone getting an abuse letter from AT&T for excessive use.
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Mount Airy, MD | said by ColorBASIC:They haven't yet. I haven't, nor have I heard of anyone getting an abuse letter from AT&T for excessive use. True true... and to be fair to AT&T, if they were doing this, we'd be hearing more about it here, as we have with Comcast and Verizon. It is entirely possible that AT&T won't care about unlimited data.
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Edge is typically around 70-150kbps (have seen 200 but its kind of rare). It kind of limits itself!
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said by fcisler:I use plenty of data on AT&T, and have never seen a "letter". Is using iTunes OPTIONAL to activate the phone? Geez...I guess that Apple/AT&T figured calling a number was too hard.... Yes it is optional. You can activate at the store the usual way, with the salesman doing it.
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I haven't got a letter yet and I stream things constantly to it on EDGE. Typically in the boonies I'll get dialup speeds but in a fairly dense area I'll get around 200kb reliably. |
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I'll say it for the first time: I've seen enough at this point to state that I think Apple has miscalculated a wee bit on this venture
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Does unlimited even matter when you're on edge? |
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ColorBASIC8-bit FunPremium
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Corona, CA | Compared to what? Per KB? Absolutely. |
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Tell me again why Apple didn't go with a CDMA carrier (Sprint/Verizon) so they could have faster EVDO speeds? I can't remember. |
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Carrollton, TX | said by cvrefugee:Tell me again why Apple didn't go with a CDMA carrier (Sprint/Verizon) so they could have faster EVDO speeds? I can't remember. Because CDMA is only of use in North America, which renders it a non-starter for a lot of potential customers (myself included). |
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| said by DMS1:said by cvrefugee:Tell me again why Apple didn't go with a CDMA carrier (Sprint/Verizon) so they could have faster EVDO speeds? I can't remember. Because CDMA is only of use in North America, which renders it a non-starter for a lot of potential customers (myself included). I thought it was only being released in North America, my mistake. |
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Carrollton, TX | said by cvrefugee:said by DMS1:said by cvrefugee:Tell me again why Apple didn't go with a CDMA carrier (Sprint/Verizon) so they could have faster EVDO speeds? I can't remember. Because CDMA is only of use in North America, which renders it a non-starter for a lot of potential customers (myself included). I thought it was only being released in North America, my mistake. It's not where it's being released, but where it can be used. If you travel outside North America with a CDMA phone it becomes a useless paperweight, whereas GSM phones work world-wide. |
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