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pnh102
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Reliance on WiFi

Perhaps most users of the iPhone will be using the Wifi connection for data instead of EDGE, so this point becomes moot.
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verolom

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Re: Reliance on WiFi

Here's another point, EDGE is more widely deployed than HSDPA so if coverage is more important, it's not a bad choice.

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Re: Reliance on WiFi

said by verolom See Profile :

Here's another point, EDGE is more widely deployed than HSDPA so if coverage is more important, it's not a bad choice.
agree, coverage is important. except for the fact they could have made it 3g/edge compatible and given the users the ability to have 3g when in a 3g area and edge in an edge area, like most of their phones.

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Re: Reliance on WiFi

said by mph300 See Profile :

said by verolom See Profile :

Here's another point, EDGE is more widely deployed than HSDPA so if coverage is more important, it's not a bad choice.
agree, coverage is important. except for the fact they could have made it 3g/edge compatible and given the users the ability to have 3g when in a 3g area and edge in an edge area, like most of their phones.

mike
But that goes TOTALLY against Mr Jab's (yes Jab's) business model. Why provide a usable device to the masses only to loose out on a "must have, look at me, I'm standing in line again" costly upgrade, a few months down the road. This iAttitude also explains why the user can't swap out the battery when it dies or worse. And just like the iPod, it has to go back to Apple for a replacement. But there are a lot of little things that I'm sure are not important to some that makes them see this is NOT a innovative phone. I see it as nothing more but a hype device that can't even record video/sound, requires a SPECIAL email account to do email (sucks to be you pop3, IM, Yahoo users), it doesn't have voice commands (does this thing even have a speaker phone?), only works with iTunes.. I won't even pick at AT&T's coverage/Edge network. Hope it comes with a vast supply of handywipes and rib eaters beware.

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It's a boneheaded choice. Edge and 3G are not mutually exclusive and they're trying to spin it as if they were. They are not. My Samsung Blackjack happily slums it on the Edge network when 3G is not available in a particular nook or cranny.
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Re: Reliance on WiFi

said by djrobx See Profile :

It's a boneheaded choice. Edge and 3G are not mutually exclusive and they're trying to spin it as if they were. They are not. My Samsung Blackjack happily slums it on the Edge network when 3G is not available in a particular nook or cranny.
I agree. I have a blackjack as well and it does great on the edge network. I don't have 3g here yet, but I can't wait to see how it works on that network.
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mph300
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Re: Reliance on WiFi

said by Nightfall See Profile :

said by djrobx See Profile :

It's a boneheaded choice. Edge and 3G are not mutually exclusive and they're trying to spin it as if they were. They are not. My Samsung Blackjack happily slums it on the Edge network when 3G is not available in a particular nook or cranny.
I agree. I have a blackjack as well and it does great on the edge network. I don't have 3g here yet, but I can't wait to see how it works on that network.
i'll take my htc 8525 any day vs. the iphone. 8525 feature set and software availability is much more appealing and it has 3g too!

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Re: Reliance on WiFi

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Agreed, I have a VZW XV6700 with wifi and I love my phone, I can do everything the iPhone can do and so much more. And if I really get desperate then I can simply load the iMenu + iContacts + Slide 2 Lock and make my phone look just like the iPhone, I can play every format of music and vids out there. I do have EVDO although I use my wifi more. There are far more third party apps out there that make so much more use of this phone than what the iPhone will ever get to. Do you think I give a crap about 6-8gb of space? I have a 4gb MicroSD now and dont have half of it used. I have more apps on it than I do music. I usually run at 80% battery life at the end of my day. My wifi and bluetooth stay running all day. My CPU is 416mhz and overclocked at 520 but can go as high as 663mhz.

So can someone please tell me why I would want to give up this device that does so much more for an iPhone ?

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Just thinking about this...

How much would it have cost Apple to add 3g to this phone? If cheaper phones like the Blackjack have 3g and Edge, it couldn't have cost that much. This phone is over $600 for crying out loud.

Well, I won't be buying one. Thats for sure.
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Maybe it's that. Or maybe it's that, just like with the iPod, Apple will make a lot of money off of stupid customers who are willing to pay more to get the slightly better version of last year's model, ad infinitum.

I'll stick with the many products that do deliver all of the goods on time.
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I have the Pearl (BlackBerry) and the edge is great for browsing, email and maps. So what if the iPhone is not on a 3G network? How many 3G service providers have the coverage that is necessary to satisfy a nifty, sexy product as the iPhone. And my friend...a few months from now when at&t or other providers have a higher concentration of BlackBerrys and iPhone they will be complementing/migrating their premium users/customers to the 3G or private Wi-Fi...in fact HSDPA is not the answer it is HSDP/EDGE/WiFi.
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