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bmn
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reply to RJ44

Re: I buy a pipe...

said by RJ44:

said by bmn:

said by RJ44:

I don't believe you're thinking this all the way through. Your statements are true if and only if there is congestion present on the network.
Actually, QoS ONLY takes affect during congestion, when routers have to make a decision between packet A and packet B. If there is no congestion, QoS has no effect because the routers and switches will forward packets at wire speed.
That's exactly what I said.
Right, but if you read on, you would see why I reiterated the point... Why the push for QoS unless the providers are pushing their networks too far ? And if they are pushing their networks too far, that definitely should make business customers think twice about using them.
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RJ44

join:2001-10-19
Nashville, TN

said by bmn:

Right, but if you read on, you would see why I reiterated the point... Why the push for QoS unless the providers are pushing their networks too far ? And if they are pushing their networks too far, that definitely should make business customers think twice about using them.
It's very simple. Because "stuff" happens to the best of networks. And if I'm offering real-time services, I want them to stay real-time even when a fiber gets cut or a router goes down or something causes everyone in the country to jump on their pc at the same time...and I'm willing to pay for that security.

bmn
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said by RJ44:

It's very simple. Because "stuff" happens to the best of networks. And if I'm offering real-time services, I want them to stay real-time even when a fiber gets cut or a router goes down or something causes everyone in the country to jump on their pc at the same time...and I'm willing to pay for that security.
QoS will not fix routers flapping or fibre cuts. Those situations are solved by properly configured routing protocols.
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RJ44

join:2001-10-19
Nashville, TN

said by bmn:

said by RJ44:

It's very simple. Because "stuff" happens to the best of networks. And if I'm offering real-time services, I want them to stay real-time even when a fiber gets cut or a router goes down or something causes everyone in the country to jump on their pc at the same time...and I'm willing to pay for that security.
QoS will not fix routers flapping or fibre cuts. Those situations are solved by properly configured routing protocols.
Are you intentionally missing the point? Because if so I will be glad to stop discussing the issue. If not, please back up and read my post again. I think it's pretty clear.

bmn
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said by RJ44:

Are you intentionally missing the point? Because if so I will be glad to stop discussing the issue. If not, please back up and read my post again. I think it's pretty clear.
Are you missing the glaring obvious point that I've made. You are overestimating the ability of what QoS can actually do for a network.

I'm sorry you can't take being corrected due to your unfamiliarity with QoS, but seriously...

I KNOW the point of QoS on a network and I'm quite familiar with the ins and outs of QoS... However, you are clearly missing the point that QoS is limited in what it can actually provide.
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RJ44

join:2001-10-19
Nashville, TN

said by bmn:

said by RJ44:

Are you intentionally missing the point? Because if so I will be glad to stop discussing the issue. If not, please back up and read my post again. I think it's pretty clear.
Are you missing the glaring obvious point that I've made. You are overestimating the ability of what QoS can actually do for a network.

I'm sorry you can't take being corrected due to your unfamiliarity with QoS, but seriously...

I KNOW the point of QoS on a network and I'm quite familiar with the ins and outs of QoS... However, you are clearly missing the point that QoS is limited in what it can actually provide.
And you, with your great knowledge, repeated my statement that QoS only makes a difference in situations when a network is congested. Except the way you said it you thought you were correcting me. Then I listed a few of situations that can cause congested networks for you, since you asked, and you completely missed the point. And now you're lecturing me because you think *I* don't know what I'm talking about?

Make up your mind. Either way, I'm done talking to a closed door.

bmn
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said by RJ44:

And you, with your great knowledge, repeated my statement that QoS only makes a difference in situations when a network is congested. Except the way you said it you thought you were correcting me.
Wow, a mind reader... That must not be working out for you too well since you are way off on that one.

Then I listed a few of situations that can cause congested networks for you, since you asked, and you completely missed the point. And now you're lecturing me because you think *I* don't know what I'm talking about?
And you missed the point of what I replied with. But hey, if you think you know it all, that's fine. Free country and everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Make up your mind. Either way, I'm done talking to a closed door.
And I'm done talking to a closed minded poster who ALWAYS posts the Bell party line and never has an independent thought on this issue...
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