matrix3D
join:2006-09-27
Deep River, CT
| reply to WileEC
Re: Awe, poor RIAA having trouble gouging customers
Uh, just so you know, the music is NOT their intellectual property. It is the property of the ARTISTS. The RIAA only acts as a distributor which is why pretty much NONE of their cases have held up in court. The RIAA is one of those organizations run by those of a certain ethnicity that have figured out how to make tons of money by basically doing nothing (very similar to banking, insurance and other forms of the media). |
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peter_m
Premium
join:2005-07-13
Canada, QC
| said by matrix3D  : ...The RIAA is one of those organizations run by those of a certain ethnicity that have figured out how to make tons of money by basically doing nothing... Who? Who I ask you! If only I could know who they were so I could learn from them  |
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xsiddalx
join:2005-03-11
Chicago, IL
 ·AT&T Yahoo
| reply to ColorBASIC
said by ColorBASIC :My heart bleeds for the bloodsuckers at the RIAA. It's the iTunes store being, I believe the #3 music retailer, not the iPhone giving the phone so-called clout. The flat rate $1/song model of iTunes is good for consumers and the RIAA has been fighting Apple to try and get tiered pricing for quite a while with Jobs simply flipping them the bird. I messed around with a friend's iPhone last night and it's way cool. I'm definately going to stop by the Apple store some time next week and pick one up. Yeah for the number 3 music retailer. Screw the x,000+ retailers out there! Bigger must mean better... God only knows how sales are measured (not unlike RIAA piracy stats are measured)
Out of curiousity, do you believe the IPOD came first or the P2P and riping of CDs came first?
For fun...what is the cost of filling the lowest level IPOD?
Bonus Q: Can you afford to fill it?
Apple is a smart marketing opportuntist, as are all broadband providers...the RIAA sorta got lost in the shuffle of the former's business plans IMO. |
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xsiddalx
join:2005-03-11
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Yahoo
| reply to jmn1207
Re: I don't want to spoil your party...
said by jmn1207 :said by ColorBASIC :The artist gets money from touring as well. If their music is popular, they will do very well. If their music sucks, the music publisher who did the investing and took the risk loses money as well. If the artist thinks they are getting a raw deal, they can sign with a different label or self publish. Who, in there right mind, can self-publish? Who has the type of resources and financial backing to make it on their own? Madonna? The music industry has always been, for the most part, a brutal industry for newcomers. Why should any talented artist be forced to hit the road to make a living? If the music is good and enough people can hear it, buy it, and play it, that should be more than enough to have a lucrative business for any budding creator of music. Who doesn't have the right to self-publish?
Dirt cheap these days...think internet based.
I think my first fugazi recording was from Wax Trax Records
in chicago after their first gig was over. Free for my blank cassette (ugh). Let's not hear crying about publishing costs...the labels only give you distribution and marketing...get good or adapt...or...gasp..realize music is an art form that doesn't always pay for itself...as with all professions.
Just one opinion...
I think you might be overrating the value of your talent. Most music doesn't require "talent", just connect in some way with your audience, it'll sell, but maybe the madonna profit days are coming to a close? how far behind might be tv/movie actors and sports players be? |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
Premium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
4 edits | reply to xsiddalx
Re: Awe, poor RIAA having trouble gouging customers
Filling an iPod? Who cares? But since you ask I have about 8GB of music (about 2,000 songs, the vast majority of which purchased on iTunes) and another 10-20GB (at any one time) in iTunes movies & TV shows on my iPod. And my CD collection is small; some people have hundreds and hundreds of CDs they've been collecting since the mid 80's when CD's came out. For those people, they already own the CDs so it's free and far more convenient than racks of CDs. And those people certainly aren't done buying music.
Who is screwing the other retailers? Bigger must mean better? Yeah, when it comes to bargaining power versus the RIAA. iTunes, Wal*Mart and Best Buy are big enough to tell the RIAA no when it comes to raising prices. I personally think lower prices is better for consumers.
Who gives a sh!t which came first, iPod or P2P? It's irrelevant other than the $1 per song model helping to curb piracy by offering an alternative to buy entire albums to get a one or two decent songs.
Certainly you have a point in there somewhere but just can't seem to get to it.
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