peter_m
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Re: Awe, poor RIAA having trouble gouging customers
said by matrix3D  : ...The RIAA is one of those organizations run by those of a certain ethnicity that have figured out how to make tons of money by basically doing nothing... Who? Who I ask you! If only I could know who they were so I could learn from them  |
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matrix3D
join:2006-09-27
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Uh, just so you know, the music is NOT their intellectual property. It is the property of the ARTISTS. The RIAA only acts as a distributor which is why pretty much NONE of their cases have held up in court. The RIAA is one of those organizations run by those of a certain ethnicity that have figured out how to make tons of money by basically doing nothing (very similar to banking, insurance and other forms of the media). |
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peter_m
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said by dvd536 :And they charge a 30 cent premium for the non DRM version. Yes they do. But I'm not sure if it's a bad thing. Possibly was the only way they could convince the record label to accept DRM-free music file... Regardless, 3 songs at a 1.29$/song is still cheaper and more convenient then driving to a record store, spending 14$ for the CD, driving home, ripping it and then finally get to use it. |
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mrchris
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North Babylon, NY | reply to WileEC
I thought it was $800 |
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ColorBASIC
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It's also supposed to be a higher quality track in addition to not having DRM. |
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Yeah , but don't buy from the russian companies because the RIAA doesn't get a cut of it and thinks it's illegal, when in fact it is legal in the country of russia where the goods are sold.
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said by WileEC :What makes you think Apple is any better than the RIAA? Apple is a for-profit company (and woah, really for-profit considering how much they hose the average Mac/iPud/iBone owner for). 2nd, not everyone subscribes to their sales model. I personally would NEVER buy from iTunes. I have a Rio Karma, probably one of the best MP3 players ever (not that any Apple fanboi would agree or even have knowledge of what a Rio Karma is) - point is that not everyone owns an iPud. Many people have many players from many companies. Why should Apple have any control over what I do? I agree. I have used Rio, Creative, then I had my LG VX-8300, then my Motorola Q, all as MP3 players. I myself like most of Apple's products, but have never been a fan of the iPod, and wasn't excited about the release of the iPhone. I dislike iTunes. I may have an inferior phone, but at least my phone manufacturer has been making phones for cellular networks, practically since the cell phone was invented. I don't "hate" Apple, though. I think it's cool they are trying this. However, I don't like a few things about it. For starters, I hate the fact that only Apple provides support. Regardless how that might strike you, I work for a cable company who supports many dfferent brands of modems, so I think that whole idea is bull. I dislike iTunes activation The $500 pricetag is rediculous. And the touch screen is not my style either. Factor in the fact that AT&T is the only provider with the damn thing, I think I'll pass. I've had a few bad experiences with that company. That phone is not worth the hassle. I want the provider to feel obligated to please me, by any means necessary, even if that means they decided to swap the phone. I don't need to argue with the idiots at Apple's technical support about signal issues, or dropped calls. Waiting on hold an avarage of 30 minutes, just to be told I have to wait 30 more minutes for an Apple rep is stupid anyway. Enjoy your $500 phone, I'll keep my $99 one. |
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dvd536
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said by peter_m :said by WileEC :What makes you think Apple is any better than the RIAA? The RIAA regularly sue deceased people and single mothers for no apparent reason. RIAA wants your bank account to be deducted every time you hum a song. Apple want to make money in exchange for a unique, well designed and functional product. Apple sells DRM free music so you can stick it where ever you want  And they charge a 30 cent premium for the non DRM version.
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said by M A R K :said by WileEC :said by peter_m :The RIAA regularly sue deceased people and single mothers for no apparent reason. RIAA wants your bank account to be deducted every time you hum a song. The RIAA has every right to defend their intellectual property. People want to share copyrighted music online, which is against United States and international laws, they get caught, they get sued. Case closed. said by peter_m :Apple sells DRM free music so you can stick it where ever you want Apple sells DRM free music that (1) costs more than non-drm music and (2) contains your personal information in an effort to keep people from trading it online. said by peter_m :Apple want to make money in exchange for a unique, well designed and functional product. As far as well-designed, that is easily debatable and based on opinion. How is an iBone well designed when it lacks basic features found on most inexpensive modern cell phones such a voice dialing (a feature I use ALL THE TIME), changeable ring tones, replaceable battery, etc? Sorry, but its all iHype and smart people aren't buying into it. Anyone stupid enough to THROW AWAY $600 on a pretty CELL PHONE is an iTard. Please get a grip  He does.. He didn't stand in line to pay 600 bucks for a phone.  |
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peter_m
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Canada, QC
1 edit | reply to Aidens Daddy
LOL, good catch. I meant using the mic as one would use it on a conventional MP3 player.. to record voice memos. It has been edited, thanx. |
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Aidens Daddy
join:2006-01-30
Tampa, FL
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said by peter_m :As for missing feature, you are talking about FM tuner and mic??? Well I considered the mic might come in handy some day... and it never has. You don't use the mic on your phone? |
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peter_m
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Canada, QC
2 edits | reply to WileEC
said by WileEC :The RIAA has every right to defend their intellectual property. People want to share copyrighted music online, which is against United States and international laws, they get caught, they get sued. Case closed. The RIAA's rights have nothing to do with harassing and bullying people who can't afford to hire an entire law firm. The single mother they where about to sue into oblivion could have folded out of fear but instead she stood her ground and they (RIAA) dropped the lawsuit. They had no proof and simply used bullying tactics. What does that have to do with the RIAA's rights? What about the single mother's rights and her children's right to be raised in a stress free environment?
said by WileEC :Apple sells DRM free music that (1) costs more than non-drm music and (2) contains your personal information in an effort to keep people from trading it online. iTunes music doesn't cost more for the average joe who was traditionally forced to pay for an entire album instead of getting the 1,2 or 3 songs he wanted... What is your point about personal information in the song files? I thought you where against pirating?
said by WileEC :As far as well-designed, that is easily debatable and based on opinion. How is an iBone well designed when it lacks basic features found on most inexpensive modern cell phones such a voice dialing (a feature I use ALL THE TIME), changeable ring tones, replaceable battery, etc? Sorry, but its all iHype and smart people aren't buying into it. Well as for opinion, well having 70% of the market is not debatable. As for missing feature, you are talking about FM tuner and mic(for voice memos)??? Well I considered the voice memo feature might come in handy some day... and it never has. I have the feature on my mobile phone and never used it. As for the FM tuner, well with about 20 pod-casts to choose from at all time plus about 1200 of my songs, I think I can live without the FM tuner. Regardless, ask yourself: If these features are so important how did they ever manage 70% of the market?
said by WileEC :Anyone stupid enough to THROW AWAY $600 on a pretty CELL PHONE is an iTard. If you call it a "pretty CELL PHONE" you either clearly don't understand what it really is or you clearly have no use for it. Also, I think your statement can be applied to anyone who chooses to spend money on something that has less value to your eyes.... In which case it's none of your business.
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clickie
join:2005-05-22
Monroe, MI | reply to WileEC
You worry too much about what other people do with their money. |
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M A R K
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said by james :A man broke into my house and made me use my credit card to buy his songs from iTunes (they were exclusive to iTunes.  Also he said he'd kill me if I bought a cd and/or ripped it. Then he touched my bum in a most unpleasant manner, it was awful. *cries* How much longer are we going to subject ourselves to this kind of terror waged upon us by Iran? HOW MUCH LONGER? GOLD!
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james
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A man broke into my house and made me use my credit card to buy his songs from iTunes (they were exclusive to iTunes.
Also he said he'd kill me if I bought a cd and/or ripped it.
Then he touched my bum in a most unpleasant manner, it was awful. *cries*
How much longer are we going to subject ourselves to this kind of terror waged upon us by Iran? HOW MUCH LONGER? |
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ColorBASIC
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I was unaware that you had a gun to your head forcing you to buy music from iTunes.
I was unaware that there was a bunch of music that was an iTunes exclusive.
Last time I checked you could still buy CDs and rip them.
Get a grip. Apple haters are free to buy music elsewhere. |
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ColorBASIC
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said by WileEC :What makes you think Apple is any better than the RIAA? Uh, 'cause I get my songs for $1 instead of $18?
Apple doesn't control what you do. Don't like Apple, don't buy an iPod. Don't like Apple, don't buy from iTunes. Don't have enough money for an iPhone, buy something else.
Apple is the #3 music seller...meaning there is a 1, 2 and 4-infinity other sellers of music out there. Buy from them.
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M A R K
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said by WileEC :said by peter_m :The RIAA regularly sue deceased people and single mothers for no apparent reason. RIAA wants your bank account to be deducted every time you hum a song. The RIAA has every right to defend their intellectual property. People want to share copyrighted music online, which is against United States and international laws, they get caught, they get sued. Case closed. said by peter_m :Apple sells DRM free music so you can stick it where ever you want Apple sells DRM free music that (1) costs more than non-drm music and (2) contains your personal information in an effort to keep people from trading it online. said by peter_m :Apple want to make money in exchange for a unique, well designed and functional product. As far as well-designed, that is easily debatable and based on opinion. How is an iBone well designed when it lacks basic features found on most inexpensive modern cell phones such a voice dialing (a feature I use ALL THE TIME), changeable ring tones, replaceable battery, etc? Sorry, but its all iHype and smart people aren't buying into it. Anyone stupid enough to THROW AWAY $600 on a pretty CELL PHONE is an iTard. Please get a grip
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WALL_E
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You'll be taken more seriously if you refrain from using childish name-replacement.
It's not even that I disagree with you (which I do, but that is beside the point), but make your point in a mature manner. As soon as many people read your comments on the "iBone", much of what you have to say becomes irrelevant.
If the iPhone, iPod and iTunes store are not well-suited to what's important to you, then by all means use what works. No reasonable Apple fan (and most are more reasonable than you expect) will care. Buy what works for you.
I'm an Apple fan, and I find myself recommending non-Apple products to people all the time if what Apple has to offer is not suited to their needs.
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WileEC
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said by peter_m :The RIAA regularly sue deceased people and single mothers for no apparent reason. RIAA wants your bank account to be deducted every time you hum a song. The RIAA has every right to defend their intellectual property. People want to share copyrighted music online, which is against United States and international laws, they get caught, they get sued. Case closed.
said by peter_m :Apple sells DRM free music so you can stick it where ever you want Apple sells DRM free music that (1) costs more than non-drm music and (2) contains your personal information in an effort to keep people from trading it online.
said by peter_m :Apple want to make money in exchange for a unique, well designed and functional product. As far as well-designed, that is easily debatable and based on opinion. How is an iBone well designed when it lacks basic features found on most inexpensive modern cell phones such a voice dialing (a feature I use ALL THE TIME), changeable ring tones, replaceable battery, etc? Sorry, but its all iHype and smart people aren't buying into it.
Anyone stupid enough to THROW AWAY $600 on a pretty CELL PHONE is an iTard.
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