tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| screw the iphone
screw the iphone and all the impulse buyers who either plunked down $1k upfront, or the $535-650 for the phone and committed to a 2 year contract worth another $1500 (minimum). consumers will soon come to realize that their 'impulse buy' is in reality.. an overpriced P.O.S.
apple clearly designed the phone for maximum revenue per subscriber in several ways, which is fine if you like getting ripped off as an every day occurrence. there is so much hype that even profiteers are getting in on the action and trying to dry up supply of iphones so that they can make a killing during the holiday shopping season for back to school and christmas. by that time iphones should retail for at least double the price... thats unless the real thing that's gonna happen: iflop. screw zdnet and all the advance phone reviewers as well.. you paid off pricks! it's nice to have a cushy job where you tow the company line to boost the stock price so the top management can take their early corporate parachute stock options. go sell another war in a middle east country losers-- to even market yourself an unbiased technology reviewer is just laughable, regardle$$ of who actually is paying to fill up your gas tank in the morning, feed your kids, pay for the mortgage on your mansion. |
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clickie
join:2005-05-22
Monroe, MI
| What difference does any of this have to you? It is obvious you wouldn't be seen dead with any Apple products, so why are you here? Or are you just upset you don't have a grand and a half to piss away on being trendy?
I doubt the iPhone is a P.O.S. I certainly can't afford it or the service plan, but looking at the instructional videos on Apple's web site shows that a lot of engineering went into that little beast. And I'm all for the iPhone and what it's probably going to do to the cellular industry if it is a hit. It'll be the death of WAP and the ridiculous vendor lock-in for many services on wireless devices. It'll hopefully bring an end to the practice of handset locking and open the market to where consumers have a better choice of devices and the networks that support them.
As far as the reviewers being paid-off pricks, they very well could be. It wouldn't be the first time that a reviewer had their own agenda (Paul Thurott for instance). Then again, it's possible that the iPhone really is that good. You and I will never know, we can't afford it and I'm okay with that. You should be too. |
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a333
A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY | shut up, u iWimp!!! |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| reply to clickie
said by clickie  :What difference does any of this have to you? It is obvious you wouldn't be seen dead with any Apple products, so why are you here? Or are you just upset you don't have a grand and a half to piss away on being trendy? I doubt the iPhone is a P.O.S. I certainly can't afford it or the service plan, but looking at the instructional videos on Apple's web site shows that a lot of engineering went into that little beast. And I'm all for the iPhone and what it's probably going to do to the cellular industry if it is a hit. It'll be the death of WAP and the ridiculous vendor lock-in for many services on wireless devices. It'll hopefully bring an end to the practice of handset locking and open the market to where consumers have a better choice of devices and the networks that support them. As far as the reviewers being paid-off pricks, they very well could be. It wouldn't be the first time that a reviewer had their own agenda (Paul Thurott for instance). Then again, it's possible that the iPhone really is that good. You and I will never know, we can't afford it and I'm okay with that. You should be too. trendy or not, the product is shamefully and arrogantly inept in its design, features and limitations, which leads to the "value factor". some people can buy products and be "okay" with its shortcomings because of the brand hype factor.. apple tends to do that to people.. the same way nissan sports cars did in the early 2000's sexy.. but not alot of real usefulness in a 350z. heh, heh.. trendy and expensive as heck yeah...
take a look at the original IPOD.. 5gb hard drive mp3 player with FIREWIRE.. Hmm.. not lots of use for firewire today.. but the design was not necessarily better than it's competition & it was MORE EXPENSIVE, but has an aggressive marketing machine, getting the product in the hands of celebrity, television circuit, sports figures and pop culture icons and you could sell dog poop. now hopefully nokia, samsung, lg, motorola and others will strike back and give consumers what they REALLY have been thirsting for in a smart phone at a substantially lower price to boot. unfortunately practical use for the iphone is aimed at a pretty narrow segment of the cellular phone business (age range 20-30 yr olds) whether this was by design or AT&T's RFP who knows. Smart phones can be so much more than the iphone could accomplish in it's FIRST design.. not subsequent hardware and software revisions later, it's a botched rush to market job, sooner or later people will realize this like the playstation 3, there is a latent expectation that Apple & AT&T will make the product better as time goes along. The iphone has a proprietary technology gap that must be closed between this and other smart phones otherwise the iphone will be relegated to the firewire analogy of orphaned misfits (amp'd mobile sound familiar?)
I doubt there are several million 20-30 somethings out there who are gonna make AT&T & apple much richer for long.. as these things are cycles.. there will be a cellular famine sooner or later.. and when the market goes sour, believe me.. apple would be the first to ditch its cellular ipod handset division leaving AT&T to hold the bag unless they provided for severance fees from apple.
No, I would NOT pay $500-600 for a cell phone handset.
$150-350 (if it does everything I want in a cell phone) maybe a bit more without a contract, and it most definitely wouldn't be on the AT&T network. They offer too little for too much money. AT&T hasn't been a powerful telcom since the early 1990's becoming bigger by gobbling up bellsouth only adds to the tarnishing/diluting of the brand/product offerings. AT&T will not be able to serve their customer base effectively and react to radical changes in the marketplace fast enough to be relevant. Sooner or later customers will realize this and abandon the telcom for greener pastures. This is already being seen in their wire line business. Wireless is only ONE or TWO product failures away.. and the iphone could do in AT&T if it's not careful. |
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urville
join:2007-06-13
Cheyenne, WY | wow is this the tech equivalent of... well lets just say he obviously has i-phobia.
bet he owns one in the next three years. |
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TanZing
@numericable.fr
| reply to tmc8080
Amazing! Just substitute "iPhone" with "iPod" and this is the same cr@p we all heard when the iPod was launched. We all know what happened there.
It is amazing how Apple's tiny 5% market share has translated into more than 100 million iPods sold! But the haters keep saying "oh, it's only Apple fanbois that buy them".
Face it, the general public loves what Apple makes. That why despite having a measly 5% AAPL actually has a higher market cap that Dell.
If the competition actually produced phones that people wanted to use rather than had to, Apple wouldn't be in the phone business right now. I've had tons of mobile phones starting in 1989 and they have all been rubbish. I always buy the top of the range, fully featured phone and they have always been a nightmare to use.
Apple haters should just get over it. The general public will decide and all the indications are that iPhone will be a major hit.
Another thing I find really amazing is how all the Apple/iPhone haters just can't help clicking on any news/post about the iPhone then make the effort and take the time to read all the posts and make their own comments.
If you don't like it, just ignore it. Very simple really. |
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urville
join:2007-06-13
Cheyenne, WY
| letme put it this way then... dont you love it when things just work?
no one i know is a "fanboy", some have never seen a forum, most only buy based on seeing whatever it is in action and everyone of them owns an ipod. not one of them has ever said anything remotely like... god i hate, or am sorry i boguht this thing, many have bought say a 1st gen and now own a 5th gen so...
everyone can argue this and that while the sales numbers continue to forever climb |
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