  Bicephale
join:2005-09-24
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1 edit | reply to Bicephale Re: Thomson SpeedTouch 5x6 & 585 EJTAG "De-Brick" Access
%20.JPG) ST546v6 - How to Open the Casing (Push...) | %20.JPG) ST546v6 - How to Open the Casing (..and Lift) | |
OKay, here's for Angelo's tutorial!
Start near the power-switch corner, then the front one from the same side.
A screwdriver and a thin/rigid metal blade are required...
Push gently, only use necessary force or you'll break an anchor. |
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 ggpr
join:2007-11-23 canada | reply to Bicephale I can, it will have to wait until I get home on Thursday. |
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  Cidi Rome
join:2007-12-12
1 edit | reply to Bicephale Hi there.
I'm comparing several router backup files and trying to understand them.
For those who are sending me the files please add a text file with the router details. That info can be obtained thought the speedtouch upgrade utility and starts like this:
_COMPANY_NAME=THOMSON _COMPANY_URL=http://www.thomson.net _PROD_NAME=SpeedTouch _PROD_URL=http://www.speedtouch.com _PROD_DESCRIPTION=DSL Internet Gateway Device _PROD_NUMBER=585 _BOARD_SERIAL_NBR=0713JE5EW (....)
My mail to send files to: cidirome@hotmail.com
Best Regards. |
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 chaveiro
join:2007-12-06 | Cidi, are you able to decompress the firmware? |
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  Cidi Rome
join:2007-12-12 | reply to Bicephale Hi there.
I've tried, but with no success. |
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  Angelo_ The Network Guy Premium join:2002-06-18 | i'll work on it later tonight if i can or friday i should have a draft posted by saturday. I'd really bad for dates :P but i promise i'll get one out asap! |
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  Bicephale
join:2005-09-24 | reply to chaveiro Just Push 'n Lift to open the package!...
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  Cidi Rome
join:2007-12-12
| reply to Bicephale Hi there.
I've made some improvements to the application, I should not detect correctly more different flash chips from the ST5x6 series.
If your chip is not correctly detected please send me the reference to check.
Get the new version here: »cidirome.977mb.com
Best Regards. |
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  Bicephale
join:2005-09-24
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| Hi Cidi Rome,
As you can imagine, i couldn't stay away from that page so 'ST5xx EJTAG Debrick Utility v1.0d' is now saved! Some details attracted my attention, allow me to make a couple suggestions. Once you decided it's the definitive tool, call it 'ST5xx.Exe' then join 'ST5xx.C'/'ST5xx.H', 'Makefile', 'ReadMe.TXT' plus the 'GiveIO.Sys'/'LoadDrv.Exe' helpers if you like. I'm sorry but i wouldn't inlcude 'JTAG.png' in the package unless there are safety directives: i search around for an intuitive Circuit Simulator which might help me sort out the safety issues and those of the unbuffered interface are the worst...
Thank you for your contribution over this tool, in any case! The ST owners will appreciate having it when the time has come and maybe the 3Com, TP-Link ones too, eventually. Did you notice the later is using a Flash chip just half the size, by the way?
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  Cidi Rome
join:2007-12-12
1 edit | reply to Bicephale Hi there.
Bicephale, as you already know I have to disagree with you.
Every one that is going to try this kind of things already know that it has risks and for me, the usage of the passive JTAG schematic is not one of the worst. In my opinion you can do more damage with wrong connections then you can with this interface.
About the utility, I like the name as it is, I'm not saying that I'll not change it later, but in the meantime it's ok. About the .c and .h, I will send it by mail to everyone who is interested on it. The provided tools only work on linux, to compile it on Windows is more difficult so the target public of the source is very little, only the ones with minimal linux knowledge and availability or others with advanced knowledge on windows and programing.
I'm working on this two routers for about one month and I have to admit this forum was a good start, but know is not helping much. You seem to keep delaying what really matters.
I will keep coming here to tell my achievements but at this time I'm not expecting much from here.
If you don't want users to have access to my utility, remove the link, but those who already know it, can go there and check for newer versions with corrections or improvements.
Best Regards. |
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  Bicephale
join:2005-09-24
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| Hi Cidi Rome,
I wasn't in a hurry when i started this thread and i'm still not, my initial goal isn't to favour the collection of Flash images in order to unlock some ISP branded FirmWare... We can all understand why you are impatient and angry but don't expect me to support any JTAG adaptor if it's not totally safe.
Our priorities are not incompatible, feel free not to help by contributing with other aspects of this project if that's how you feel but the best advice you can get from me is to ensure the readers won't have to wonder about any grey zone such as safety.
Lets put 1st things 1st, perhaps it seemed trivial to you when i showed how the ST546v6 can be opened without breaking its fragile plastic clamps but it is one item which tells our readers we care. It's OKay to be worried about erroneous connections and i concur, i still welcome your cooperation over an electric signature which the SpeedTouch owners and maybe even a few others (3Com, TP-Link) can use to comfort themselves that's the right thing to do...
I have no desire to obstruct even if you think the ST owners aren't worthy enough to get source-code.
I wish to make this as user-friendly as it can be, can i count on you or must i wait for someone else to help with features meant to seduce the readers? |
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  Cidi Rome
join:2007-12-12
| reply to Bicephale Hi there.
Don't put words in my mouth that I didn't said. I said: "I will send it by mail to everyone who is interested on it", and I will not waste my little free time, putting the source files in the package every time I make a new version available. As you know I have already put one version of the source, maybe in some time I'll put other ones.
About the seduction part, you already know what most of the users really want, and I'm sure that it is not to spend a value in parts that is close to the price of a new router in order to be able to recover it latter (if needed)....
Best Regards. |
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  Bicephale
join:2005-09-24
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| Hi Cidi Rome,
10 days ago i wrote that "i'll get a BackUp of the Flash contents because i must and i will" and then i published pictures which show to the world how i managed to open the casing of my ST546 - and hence the warranty is now void, explicitly. I hate when i have to repeat myself, don't make me once again.
THE READERS ARE WARNED NOT TO USE THE "UNBUFFERED" OR "PASSIVE" ADAPTOR, it's not wise to put a MoDem at risk this way and especially when one considers no safety directives have ever been made available until now nor have any corrections been published!
I advise the readers not to make assumptions about their pieces of HardWare. Play safe and have fun. |
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  Bicephale
join:2005-09-24 | Oups! And it's not just the MoDem, PC damage$ have been reported too. |
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  Cidi Rome
join:2007-12-12
| reply to Bicephale I hate when i have to repeat myself, don't make me once again:
I said: "Every one that is going to try this kind of things already know that it has risks"
Even with any other kind a JTAG interface, there will always be risks...
I can predict that you will never backup your router, I say that when you overcome the risks you are talking now, you will find others, so it will never be safe for you.
Best Regards. |
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  Bicephale
join:2005-09-24
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| Hi Cidi Rome,
Now it seems you're really frustrated but wait for this: I ALSO ADVISE AGAINST MAKING SERIAL NUMBERS PUBLIC! Oh, i'll get my BackUp all right but only when it suits me and certainly not for someone who may as well be at the origin of an elaborate hoax. |
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  Cidi Rome
join:2007-12-12 | reply to Bicephale About the serial numbers, I surely agree with you, and I've said that before you.
About the rest you said, I have to say you are hilarious. |
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 fenster16
join:2008-01-04
| reply to Bicephale hello i built and used the JTAG adaptor from Cidi Rome worked without problems !!!
what I am missing here is a short summry (with parts list) how to built an aktive or BUFFERED JTAG adaptor
the postings shows a lot of informationes but for people and also for me which are not experts in electrical it´s difficult to understand
best regards fenster |
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  Bicephale
join:2005-09-24
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| reply to Cidi Rome Hi,
Five volts thru 100 Ω that's 50 mA, 3.3 Volts thru the same resistor makes it 33 mA. Both the PC and the MoDem are made of high integration chips where the safety limits are most likely inferior to what they used to be when discrete parts were used; as a result, it might be questionable to target 20 mA since 5 mA is probably more suitable as a limit...

Lets add to this risk the dangers of submitting an input to over-voltage & over-current while there's no power applied to the corresponding circuit, not to mention that few of us can tell what technology lies behind, actually. I hardly find it hilarious when some people ask others to gamble on expensive HardWare, don't count on me to overlook elementary safety precautions, it's no contest for me! I see that your sustained controversial attitude is only a sign that no further cooperation is possible, so be it. As Fenster pointed out, it can be puzzling enough for most of us to deceipher schematics when the documentation is unclear or even missing; i'm not surprized at all so that's why i'll contribute with what i can as i prefer addition to exclusion. |
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  Cidi Rome
join:2007-12-12 | reply to Bicephale About expensive..
We are talking here of a router that costs 25 Euros (ST516v6), I bet that your secure JTAG tool, by the scenario we are seeing here, will cost more than that.
Best Regards. |
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