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StraitShoot
Who Loves Ya Baby? - Theo Kojak
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join:2003-02-08
Clinton, MA
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Re: Kaspersky, You lost me at ISwift..
said by Mele20  :Hi StraitShoot...long time no see! Nice to see you too, Mele, although I was never really gone... 
said by Mele20 :I've been twice burned now by Kaspersky. I can't believe that I was such an utter fool to trust them at all after the KAV 5 fiasco. Based on Kaspersky's behavior with ADS mess, I believe that the only way to get them to provide a tool is to warn all current Kaspersky users that they too may have ruined chkdsks and refuse to recommend Kaspersky to any potential new users. I cannot in good conscience ever recommend Kaspersky again ...not after being burned twice. I was willing to trust again after the first fiasco but burn me a second time (especially if it is true that I was unable to stop Iswift from being used by the file monitor) and you have lost my trust, my goodwill forever. I totally agree and I guess I had the same experience, except I did in fact turn the ISwift Tech on. Presently I am working on restoring an image on the desktop and then I PROMISE NEVER TO EVER INSTALL KASPERSKY OR ANY KAV BASED AV'S EVER AGAIN! Ignorance earns my wrath, and I think you probably remember what a "hell raiser" I can be, and why not? All they have to do is release a removal tool and folks like you and I'll go away. I personally am on a mission, I WILL WARN AS MANY PEOPLE AS I CAN NEVER TO USE ANY WITH KASPERSKY AGAIN UNLESS THEY GIVE ME REASON TO THINK OTHERWISE... ONLY IN TERMS OF FIXING THEIR MORONIC MISTAKES!
Thank God for Acronis True Image.. I think the reason you and I fell for the KAV -KIS BS is because of the detection rates. Well, now I realize that sometimes the cure is worse than the disease. I probably will go with Avast, Avira, or AVG. No more KAV anything.
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Mele20
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Hi StraitShoot...long time no see!
I'm sorry to hear that you too got caught up in the Kaspersky Chkdsk mess.
I never enabled ICheck or ISwift when I had KAV 2006 because I was very wary of them due to the mess I had with KAV 2005 trial. What a horror that experience was so I wasn't at all convinced that Kaspersky had actually fixed the earlier problem (with IStreams and ADS attached to all files) in the 2006 version. I figured they fixed it somewhat and swept the rest under the rug and hoped no one would notice.
Even with those two NEVER enabled, I too experienced the Chkdsk problem as you know from reading the KAV thread. I think the only reason the damage to my computer, which is permanent unless I reformat, was not greater was because I did two things when I installed KAV 2006: set it to never use Icheck or ISwift and I NEVER ran a FULL scan of the computer. Thank goodness, I did those two things or I would have had to reformat after removing KAV. Nevertheless, I had damage but it took four months to show up.
I don't think anyone should use KAV because the risk is too high for this damage. If someone just has to use it, don't do full scans ever and don't use ISwift and Icheck. However, having just now read pages 14-18 of the thread at Kaspersky forums (when I last read the thread stopped on page 13), I see someone claiming that a user can NOT stop the file checker from using ISwift. That statement was later questioned by another poster and then Lucian questions if you set in the registry to not use ISwift if that works. I simply set it in the GUI. I had no idea I had to go in the registry and set it there!
I set KAV to NOT use ISwift or Icheck and I set that for the File checker as well as the on demand scanner. Since I sustained damage to Chkdsk even though I NEVER ran a full scan and told the file scanner to not use ISwift or Icheck, I now am thinking that I just THOUGHT I had ISwift and Icheck turned off for the real time scanner. If this is the case, then Kaspersky should be sued by all of us with permanent damage to our computers. I TRUSTED that I was turning off ISwift and ICheck TOTALLY. It now appears that is not possible. Unbelieveable.
It is unconscionable that Kaspersky has stonewalled for this long and refuses to provide a tool to remove the crap that ISwift attaches to files. I recall what HELL some of us, and I was in the thick of it and was one of the MAJOR hell raisers, had to raise to get Kaspersky to provide a tool to remove the ADS tags after we had uninstalled KAV 5. I was the FIRST person that Kaspersky sent the removal tool to ...probably because I yelled all over the internet about it...and the tool promptly removed my nVidia drivers. The tool was revised and did work eventually work properly.
I've been twice burned now by Kaspersky. I can't believe that I was such an utter fool to trust them at all after the KAV 5 fiasco. Based on Kaspersky's behavior with ADS mess, I believe that the only way to get them to provide a tool is to warn all current Kaspersky users that they too may have ruined chkdsks and refuse to recommend Kaspersky to any potential new users. I cannot in good conscience ever recommend Kaspersky again ...not after being burned twice. I was willing to trust again after the first fiasco but burn me a second time (especially if it is true that I was unable to stop Iswift from being used by the file monitor) and you have lost my trust, my goodwill forever.
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