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<description><![CDATA[fivebyfive posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/522822" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=522822');">Archivis</a>:</small><br><br>I was laid off in March of 04.  At that time, the stock price was around $10.  Everyone was told that the company would feel the costs from outsourcing, severence packages, etc for the next two years, and after that, the stock price would go back up.  Where is it at today?  Look at Earthlink continuing to lay people off.</div>Companies that get into a cyclical layoff mode can be likened to bulimics.  Every time they have a layoff, the financial talking heads tell the public that the company is improving profitability, and, indeed, their ledger looks better and the stock price goes up.  It feels so good that they want to do it again and again.  However, it's just a matter of time before the company is hollowed out and simply collapses.  If, at the time of death, the company is in the $1 billion-plus annual sales range, the corpse can keep quivering for 10 years or so, giving the illusion that it is still alive.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[RogerADSL posted : I remember the Bagels every Wednesday! That was cool! I love bagels! ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[AtlGuy posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/522822" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=522822');">Archivis</a>:</small><br><br>I do miss my 25 cent sodas.  I remember when they used to hand awards out.  They actually managed to make a community out of that company and its employees before this outsourcing mess.<br><br>There was no other ISP in the country that could provide the level of support that Mindspring/Earthlink did.  Everyone knew their shit.<br></div>Man I had forgotten about the 25 cent sodas.  I remember stacking up on those before heading to the house many a night.  <br><br>You are so right about that company being a community.  A community of freaks and geeks, with a few "normal" people sprinkled in.   :p<br><br>Mindspring was my first tech job, and I'm so grateful for all of the things I learned there.  The techs there really did know their shit.  <br><br>I'll always have fond memories of the people there and Mindspring itself, and hate what Earthlink turned it into.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[fatness posted : It's something ( a sense of community) that lasts in very few companies. Right now Teksavvy is like that; I hope they stay that way both for their customers' sake and for their own sense of satisfaction. <br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://media.putfile.com/midget-and-tree">Sure, that'll work.<a>.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Splitpair posted : <br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/243195" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=243195');">fatness</a>:</small><br><br>Back then, the feeling of community was shared by customers as well.  </div>Unfortunately that is a measurement that is all too often never considered by the MBA&#146;s who advise those above them.<br><br>Wayne  <br><small>--<br>If you cannot fix it with a buttset and some beanies you ain't a technician.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Archivis posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/177624" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=177624');">Splitpair</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/220845" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=220845');">hrobins</a>:</small><br><br> <br>Archivis, I use to talk to you all the time when you were in TRON.  </div>TRON. What was that?<br><br>Wayne<br> </div>Ticketing Response blah blah blah.  I did just about everything from Livechat to E-Support to Webhosting to Help Desk to Customer Service to supporting every product EL ever had (lol ISDN)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[fatness posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/522822" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=522822');">Archivis</a>:</small><br><br>They actually managed to make a community out of that company and its employees before this outsourcing mess.<br><br>There was no other ISP in the country that could provide the level of support that Mindspring/Earthlink did.  Everyone knew their shit.</div>Back then, the feeling of community was shared by customers as well. Alas, the good old days are gone (I feel like my grandfather saying that).<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://media.putfile.com/midget-and-tree">Sure, that'll work.<a>.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Splitpair posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1278238" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1278238');">questionable</a>:</small><br><br>Glad to see this company continue die after what they did to Mindspring<br> </div>It&#146;s a shame you feel that way as the only result of EL failing will be options and severance for the few responsible while those who made it work and gave a crap get their asses kicked upon the streets with nothing.<br><br>Wayne<br><small>--<br>If you cannot fix it with a buttset and some beanies you ain't a technician.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Splitpair posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/220845" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=220845');">hrobins</a>:</small><br><br> <br>Archivis, I use to talk to you all the time when you were in TRON.  </div>TRON. What was that?<br><br>Wayne<br><small>--<br>If you cannot fix it with a buttset and some beanies you ain't a technician.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Archivis posted : mmm bagels<br><br>We used to smuggle in "other" alcohol when they brought in the kegs.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Archivis posted : That meeting in the tiki room was the beginning of the end of Earthlink.  From that time onward, our time was limited.<br><br>I do miss my 25 cent sodas.  I remember when they used to hand awards out.  They actually managed to make a community out of that company and its employees before this outsourcing mess.<br><br>There was no other ISP in the country that could provide the level of support that Mindspring/Earthlink did.  Everyone knew their shit.<br><br>I'm sure I have my old awards sitting around somewhere.  I had six or seven myself.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[hrobins posted : Man, lot of old names coming up in here when I was a tech at Earthlink. I am really glad I got out when I did. I remember when we had a meeting in the Tiki room as Archivis did, and when we started to talk about how the outsourcing was not as good as it was in-house, I was told in a very nasty tone by the VP to never bad mouth the outsourcers. We were also told that our jobs were not going to be taken away. Mindspring was a great place to work for, till Earthlink ate it and totally destroyed what Charles put together.  <br>Archivis, I use to talk to you all the time when you were in TRON. Hope you remember me. <br>Howard Robinson<br>*This post is just my two cents worth and in no way reflects my current employers viewpoints. Please forgive the bad grammer, as I am at work and will fix this later when I am at home.*]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[fatmanskinny posted : Jon Kerner, CTO, is gone as is Eric Alfaro, VP. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[skj posted : The Executive Vice President who is leaving is Mike Lunsford.<br><br><i> Mike Lunsford is leaving EarthLink Inc. at the end of the year due to a company restructuring that has eliminated his position, according to a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission. <br><br>Lunsford became Atlanta-based EarthLink's interim CEO in November 2006, when former President and CEO Garry Betty took a leave of absence to battle cancer. Betty died in January 2007. </i><br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2007/12/17/daily2.html" >www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stor&middot;&middot;&middot;ly2.html</A><br><small>--<br><br> <br> The foundations of character are built not by lecture, but by bricks of good example, laid day by day.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[fatmanskinny posted : Per inside source, some high level execs (including an Executive Vice President down to a Vice President) left the company this past week.<br><br>Also, EarthLink is letting go of the following services: VOIP and Muni-Wifi. In addition to all of the support employees being let go, marketing will be completely gone and Operations will take a significant hit.<br><br>The above <strike>firings</strike> layoffs were not apart of the original 900+ ELNK laid off a few months back. This is a whole new batch of victims.<br><small>--<br><b> The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary. </b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[skj posted : Hey, I remember you. ;-)  I appreciate all the help you gave the Earthlink forum members, including myself. Glad you have been able to start making a living again. <br><br>Sadly, we are pretty much on our own in terms of any tech support here. Thankfully, we still have some knowledgeable and helpful people who post here that can help us avoid the dreaded call to Earthlink "tech support".<br><small>--<br><br> <br> The foundations of character are built not by lecture, but by bricks of good example, laid day by day.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Archivis posted : At the time, I did live in Steelton.<br><br>York's a crapper.  I don't work for PennDoT, but I work in the same building in Harrisburg.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Archivis posted : Thanks for the kind words fatness, but to answer Splitpair's question, after they laid off a ton of us, our markets got flooded with qualified IT guys.  It didn't help that a local healthcare provider laid off their IT guys off as well at the same time.<br><br>I dabbled into some small business stuff for a while but I eventually decided that job stability is what I needed.  I'm just now finally making what I used to make at Earthlink (and it's really nothing fantastic), but I work for law enforcement now doing something completely unrelated.<br><br>I may get into the IT field in the state.  If there's job security anywhere, it's there.<br><br>(P.S. Fatness, I live in Harrisburg, PA)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[fatness posted : You were helping people in this forum long before I started modding it. I certainly remember that. That was back when  mballard <A HREF="/useremail/u/118031"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> was the mod here, I think. And if I remember correctly we talked one time about location; I grew up maybe 20 miles south of where you were living or working at the time.<br><br>It's sad to see what has happened to EL tech support. They used to be the best, no stones unturned in helping people. I hope you, and all the other good people they've let go, have been able to use your talents to make a good living elsewhere. <br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://media.putfile.com/midget-and-tree">Sure, that'll work.<a>.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Splitpair posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/522822" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=522822');">Archivis</a>:</small><br><br> For some of us, it is and was our way of life and our means of providing for our families.<br> </div>For some of us telephony is a multi-generational thing. ;-)<br><br>BTW what are you doing now?<br><br>Wayne<br><small>--<br>If you cannot fix it with a buttset and some beanies you ain't a technician.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Kindguy98 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/522822" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=522822');">Archivis</a>:</small><br><br>To those of you purchasing your services through Earthlink, best of luck to you all. </div>Not everyone is eligible for FiOS :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Archivis posted : I almost never read this place anymore, but I thought I'd pop in on this thread.  I worked for Earthlink for four years.  I was one of the first Earthlink techs to ever post here and was assisting people on the forums for years.  Some of the assistance I did had to be done in PM's to get people hooked up, because I would bypass the ticketing system (and before there was a ticketing system or TRON, it was direct access to a few members of the Help Desk who had NOC access to take care of people's line) and do it in PM's as to not get discovered for circumventing the "efficient" ticketing process.<br><br>I was the first to put a bug in the ear of the Electronic Support manager in Atlanta, back when he used to ask us what we thought.  I told him that other techs make an appearance on other forums and that we should do the same.  That's when you started seeing ELNK techs from e-mail support pop on here and offer official solutions.<br><br>I was laid off in March of 04.  At that time, the stock price was around $10.  Everyone was told that the company would feel the costs from outsourcing, severence packages, etc for the next two years, and after that, the stock price would go back up.  Where is it at today?  Look at Earthlink continuing to lay people off.<br><br>I remember in 2003, sitting in the "Tiki room" listening to the manager tell us that the out-sourcers weren't going to take our jobs... that they were simply handling our overflow in E-Support and Livechat.  During the late hours of the day (I worked 4pm to 3am), I was the one who oversaw the outsourcing group when the managers went home.<br><br>To say I am terribly surprised would only be half accurate.  It's only terrible as to what happened.  Earthlink will not come back.  They will not rebound and it's only a matter of time until they bankrupt themselves.<br><br>For those of you about to be laid off, look for a job now.  Don't enjoy your time off with the unemployment... you'll get more time off than you wanted.  Jump ship now, do what's best for you.  Earthlink cares not one cent about its employees and I mean this with the utmost sincerity.  You are very much disposable and you will be kicked to the curb.<br><br>To those of you purchasing your services through Earthlink, best of luck to you all.  To you, it's just the Internet.  For some of us, it is and was our way of life and our means of providing for our families.<br><small>--<br>I melt faces.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bmaasjr320 posted : I just notice the other day.  That the Earthlink signup kiosk at my local Fry's store is now gone.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[skj posted : We currently do not have any remaining offical EL techs helping/posting here. It is also unknown whether we will ever have any again in the future. We are fortunate, however, to have a number of members here who are very knowledgeable about Earthlink and have been able to help others with their Earthlink issues.<br><small>--<br><br> <br> The foundations of character are built not by lecture, but by bricks of good example, laid day by day.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dbldbl posted : I just had a pleasant exchange with the live chat option, regarding billing. Of course, it was the witching hour before we reverted back to standard time (1am-ish).<br><br>Back on topic, with the reduction of US based techs, does that mean less to none official EL reps on these boards? That's going to be a strong point for me to consider continuing with EL or jump ship to another.<br><br>edited: I think I answered my question by looking around... the last tech hasn't been on here since Aug 07. 3 Cheers for Doc Olds for helping on his own time... am going to start the migration this month.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[vinnie97 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/559560" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=559560');">TheHelpful1</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/908589" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=908589');">vinnie97</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/559560" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=559560');">TheHelpful1</a>:</small><br><br>the darkside (VZ Fios) is calling - somebody talk me out of it.</div>*beckons you on to join the darkside* :D  *watches from below with his lowly but solid cable modem*<br> </div>Not to go off topic, but if you are on a cable modem, how are you beckoning (calling) me to the darkside? Shouldn't you be "pushing" me to the darkside since FIOS doesnt = cable or did i miss something?<br> </div>Ah, incorrect term usage on my part..."pushing" would be appropriate, just less grandiose-sounding. :D]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Windsun posted : The Computer > Vista > DSL is working. Vista is apparently smart enough to figure it out.<br><br>The problem is that none of the setup or tests that are supposed to use the "http://172.16.0.254/***" diagnostics work in IE7. They mostly work in FireFox, except it shows PPOE as failing.<br><br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Test your connection to EarthLink<br><br>  Test PPPoE server connection &#9;: FAIL &#9;FIX<br>  Test PPPoE server session &#9;: N/A &#9;INFO<br>  Test authentication with EarthLink &#9;: N/A &#9;INFO<br>  Test the assigned IP address &#9;: N/A &#9;INFO<hr></blockquote>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Doctor Olds posted : That is good, but it doesn't remove the fact of it being your responsibility to make/take notes so that any/all Windows Vista system changes can be undone if the results are not beneficial or do not perform as expected.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/ylb8u9">What&#146;s the point of owning a supercar if you can&#146;t scare yourself stupid from time to time?</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Windsun posted : Yes I did, numerous times. In exactly those and similar words, something like "my dsl connection keeps dropping and I am getting sync errors"]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Doctor Olds posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1390032" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1390032');">Windsun</a>:</small><br><br>No, *I* was not guessing at the problem, EL was.<br><br>I called them. They instructed me to make those changes.<br> </div>Based on what you were telling them.  Did you ever state that the DSL sync signal was dropping out?<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/ylb8u9">What&#146;s the point of owning a supercar if you can&#146;t scare yourself stupid from time to time?</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Windsun posted : No, *I* was not guessing at the problem, EL was.<br><br>I called them. They instructed me to make those changes.<br><br>It sounds to me like you are telling me that I should not have done what EL support told me do to.<br><br>I guess my biggest mistake was thinking that EL support knew what they were doing.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Doctor Olds posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1390032" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1390032');">Windsun</a>:</small><br><br>Sigh...<br><br>I have been calling EL for MONTHS now on the line dropping problem.<br><br>2-3 months ago when I called <u>*they told me*</u> to make those changes.<br> </div>Vista configuration changes have nothing to do with DSL dropping sync which happens even when no PCs are connected. It sounds like you were guessing at the problem instead of diagnosing the problem. Plus it is your PC, and that includes the responsibility to make/take notes so that any changes can be undone if the results are not beneficial or do not perform as expected.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/ylb8u9">What&#146;s the point of owning a supercar if you can&#146;t scare yourself stupid from time to time?</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Windsun posted : Sigh...<br><br>I have been calling EL for MONTHS now on the line dropping problem.<br><br>2-3 months ago when I called <u>*they told me*</u> to make those changes.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Doctor Olds posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1390032" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1390032');">Windsun</a>:</small><br><br>Then why did it work before I made the changes I was told to make by EL Support?<br> </div>If "it was working" why were you calling EL and making changes to a "working" system?<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/ylb8u9">What&#146;s the point of owning a supercar if you can&#146;t scare yourself stupid from time to time?</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Windsun posted : Then why did it work before I made the changes I was told to make by EL Support?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Doctor Olds posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1390032" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1390032');">Windsun</a>:</small><br><br>In searching the KB, I come up with a link &raquo;<A HREF="http://kb.earthlink.net/case.asp?s=st%3D160%2Ce%3D0000000001665322391%2Ck%3D7975%2Csxi%3D5&article=3645" >kb.earthlink.net/case.asp?s=st%3&middot;&middot;&middot;cle=3645</A> to fix it. <br> </div>Does <b>not</b> apply to you as you are getting an IP from the Modem. You are then getting a 400 Browser error.<br><br>The 400 error is from your Browser.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html" >www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc&middot;&middot;&middot;c10.html</A><br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>10.4.1 400 Bad Request<br><br>The request could not be understood by the server due to malformed syntax. The client SHOULD NOT repeat the request without modifications. <hr></blockquote>You are unrealistically expecting EL to have a fix for a Vista issue that MS has not even released a fix for yet.  Blame MS, not EL.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Doctor Olds<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/ylb8u9">What&#146;s the point of owning a supercar if you can&#146;t scare yourself stupid from time to time?</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Windsun posted : Ok, find a link for this problem:<br><br>Many of the EL instructions start with this:<br><br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>In the Address or URL field of your browser, type &raquo;<A HREF="http://172.16.0.254/setup" >172.16.0.254/setup</A> and press the Enter key on your keyboard.<hr></blockquote><br><br>That does not work in my Vista/IE7. I have to use FireFox.<br><br>It used to come up, but a while back I called EL support and they walked me through a bunch of changes. However, you stated in another thread that it was setup wrong. Now I am trying to fix it.<br><br>In searching the KB, I come up with a link &raquo;<A HREF="http://kb.earthlink.net/case.asp?s=st%3D160%2Ce%3D0000000001665322391%2Ck%3D7975%2Csxi%3D5&article=3645" >kb.earthlink.net/case.asp?s=st%3&middot;&middot;&middot;cle=3645</A> to fix it. None of those KB articles address Vista/IE7 that I can find.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Doctor Olds posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1390032" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1390032');">Windsun</a>:</small><br><br>However, I would point out that there they are well hidden, and not in the same section as 95/ME/XP/Mac<br> </div>I don't know how any of it could be well hidden unless you are looking at the wrong place/wrong page.  First of all, we have been talking about the KB (Knowledge Base) and that starting page is located at this address &raquo;<A HREF="http://kb.earthlink.net" >kb.earthlink.net</A>  You will notice that only one (1) Operating System is shown at the KB main page and that is seen in my image capture below. <br><br>[att=1]<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Doctor Olds<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/ylb8u9">What&#146;s the point of owning a supercar if you can&#146;t scare yourself stupid from time to time?</a></small><div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/19120550?c=1218056&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxODYxMzk2MC54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="41651 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=582 SRC="/r0/download/1218056.thumb600~9b4c2c48179a1fad74f9dff00e039ef5/kb_vista.gif/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Windsun posted :  <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>.. Are you using the new Microsoft Vista operating system? Click here for help setting up your EarthLink service....<hr></blockquote><br><br>OK, as of this week there is. I lied, so shoot me!<br><br>However, I would point out that there they are well hidden, and not in the same section as 95/ME/XP/Mac<br><br>I blame the tourists.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Catman51 posted : I switched. Left Elink on for a month, contacted everyone, then dropped them.<br>After all the lousy support, I did not want to pay them another penny for more of a bad experience.<br><small>--<br>SteveM</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[RogerADSL posted : I found out today the Knowledge base team is gone too! That was a heck of a department back in the day. I guess you'll have to guess what to do about an issue for any new departments, or the marketing team will cobble together an FAQ! hehe Remember the 13 Deadly sin (or how to be like everyone else)? They pulled that off their internal site 2 years ago, I suppose so they could violate all of them!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[TheHelpful1 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/908589" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=908589');">vinnie97</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/559560" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=559560');">TheHelpful1</a>:</small><br><br>the darkside (VZ Fios) is calling - somebody talk me out of it.</div>*beckons you on to join the darkside* :D  *watches from below with his lowly but solid cable modem*<br> </div>Not to go off topic, but if you are on a cable modem, how are you beckoning (calling) me to the darkside? Shouldn't you be "pushing" me to the darkside since FIOS doesnt = cable or did i miss something?<br><small>--<br>"My weakness is that I care too much"</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:19:36 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[sashwa posted : The Earthlink Experience is $9.95 and is different than the $3.95 service.  Doc posted that link further up in the thread:<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="/faq/earthlink">EarthLink DSL FAQ</A> &raquo;<A HREF="/faq/11473">Can I keep my email address after I drop Earthlink?</A>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 16:07:34 EDT</pubDate>
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