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Re: Loss of Safe Harbor = end to Internet said by KrK:Seriously. If ISP's are forced to start policing users to make sure that nothing they do is illegal, offends anyone, or violates corporate rules, then we are screwed and the internet is basically done. For 95% of the users, they will notice no change at all. Only those pushing the envelope or always looking to get something for nothing will be inconvenienced.
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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| said by fAcEtIOUs:For 95% of the users, they will notice no change at all. Only those pushing the envelope or always looking to get something for nothing will be inconvenienced. I disagree. Perhaps when it comes to illegal activities, true. But when it comes to offending someone, or, annoying a Corporation by posting something they view as negative, you'll find the pool of prospective "victims" grows a lot.
The problem is that ISP's, if they can be held liable, will have to try to preempt such activity. IE they won't be able to afford to "wait" until a user does something wrong, they will have to take steps to try and block and prevent access to anything deemed illegal/offensive/improper etc
This would affect everyone, including the 100% perfect legal straight laced types.
It would be a disaster.
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Elbonia | You are correct. This has always been the sound basis of the "common carrier" principle.
The "common carrier" principle started at least as early as railroad law in the 19th century U.S.. The deal was that the carrier would lack the right to police what comes and goes (except as necessary to run the service), and in exchange they would not be held liable for contraband or criminals, etc.. Later it was applied to telephone companies. It's obviously a good rule for ISPs for reasons you mention.
If this ISP does end up having to implement and filtering (after any appeals, etc.), the practicalities of it are going to kick them in the be a problem. They'll first have to run *all* the traffic, gigabytes per second, thru some device without slowing all the subscribers' connections unacceptably. Then they have to avoid false positives (which would mean lawsuits in USA) and try to catch a good percentage of offenders. The latter depends on the capabilities of the Audible Magic which frankly seems a bit dubious to me.
And the whole thing will be defeated by encryption. Or are they going to ban VPNs, SSL, SSH, etc.?
The only good news is it's only one ISP for now, and soon, hopefully, the courts will see that this is the wrong approach. |
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Anchorage, AK | reply to fAcEtIOUs
95% huh?
Well, the aggressive marketing of crippled ISP's
may create a high double digit percentage of customers
who have no idea how to download
even the weekly DAT file to their virus protection,
but how long do you think these "customers"
will keep shelling out for "Hi-speed bundles"?
The paperweight stored in the corner or the chic laptop in the closet
fills its taskbar and fragments it's drive to a crawl VERY QUICKLY.
Who's going to pay high monthly fees
to check email that's mostly SPAM?
Chat room novelty wears off
as children become adults and pedophiles get caught.
Fashion is fleeting. |
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Orange Springs, FL | reply to fAcEtIOUs
said by fAcEtIOUs:said by KrK:Seriously. If ISP's are forced to start policing users to make sure that nothing they do is illegal, offends anyone, or violates corporate rules, then we are screwed and the internet is basically done. For 95% of the users, they will notice no change at all. Only those pushing the envelope or always looking to get something for nothing will be inconvenienced. Here we go again, I am and most people are so clean that what they are stopping is all illegal traffic.
First they came for the communists.......
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