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Re: Hmmm...

said by utahluge:

What drives me nuts is when I try to download an ISO (for example) from my work and I get throttled (as I KNOW how much speed we get on our 3 load balanced T1's) because we are moving 'pirated' traffic due to file extensions and such!!
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I completely side with you based on the facts you've given. Typically I could give a care less if a broadband user gets throttled, but your case is different. With broadband you are paying for a shared resource that is subject to lots of rules and conditions, but a T1 should have no such restrictions. With a T1, the bandwidth is yours to use as you see fit, so I'd be on the phone with your account executive right away if I were you.

At my company we don't even have the ability to shape traffic on the T1's or other larger fixed circuits we provide; they completely bypass the shapers that our cable modems are fed through. The only thing we can do is set your overall speed limit based on your service level. The rest is yours to do with as you please.

Man... who the heck are you using for your bonded T1's?

- Tate

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utahluge

join:2004-10-14
Draper, UT

Its not the T1 side that is throttled. Its my 10Mb fiber connection. I can go off and download 5 other ISO's from mirros and get my full bandwidth but a single connection is slowwwwed down.


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said by utahluge:

Its not the T1 side that is throttled. Its my 10Mb fiber connection. I can go off and download 5 other ISO's from mirrors and get my full bandwidth but a single connection is slowwwwed down.
Ahhh, okay. That makes more sense. If I'm understanding correctly now, you're attempting to download your ISO's from work using a 10Mbps fiber connection located off site. Is the fiber connection residential (Utopia?), or is it an SLA'ed business circuit? If it's an SLA'ed business circuit then I still side with you. If it's residential "best effort" broadband then all bets are off.

Can you describe the scenario in a little more detail? Are you using some sort of P2P to transfer the ISO's from the bonded T1 connection to the fiber connection or what? How slow are your throttled transfers, Kbps / Mbps wise?

Assuming we are talking about a 10Mbps Utopia residential connection, I can still understand your frustration. It's probably BPON or GPON fiber, so it's got massive bandwidth potential. Unlike a cable modem, where shaping is necessary to provide fair service to everyone, it's hard to understand why your fiber would still be throttled. The only thing I can think of is that your ISP is trying to limit their WAN costs.

Kinda sucks, but it's only what -- $50 / month?

- Tate

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utahluge

join:2004-10-14
Draper, UT

I get speeds of about 250k-300k. It is straight off the server via http. It is residential.... but on iProvo (basically Utopia but iProvo built there own network out). I guess I can't complain to much as I talked to them about what services I can run and they told me I can run whatever I want (they didn't even care!).

Ya, only $40 / month!


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said by utahluge:

I get speeds of about 250k-300k. It is straight off the server via http. It is residential.... but on iProvo (basically Utopia but iProvo built there own network out). I guess I can't complain to much as I talked to them about what services I can run and they told me I can run whatever I want (they didn't even care!).

Ya, only $40 / month!
Sounds like a great ISP to me! You can't beat a 10/10 connection for $40, at least not around these parts. For comparison, I want to say an unrestricted 10/10 ether (over GPON) circuit runs around $1K / month through my company, as long as we have fiber near you.

On a side note, have you tried SSH or VPN to retrieve the ISO's over your setup? I would imagine that as long as you have decently fast machines on both ends you should be able to saturate your first bottleneck (probably the combined upstream bandwidth of the T1's). It's worth a try if you haven't done so already.

- Tate

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