  thearendts Premium join:2007-01-01 Woodstock, GA
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I am doing a freebie little poster to advertise the Tae Kwon Do school that my daughter attends. I personally think this one came out pretty well, but, would like some other peoples opinions. So, please be as brutal as necessary.  |
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  HFB1217 The Wizard Premium,ExMod 2000-01 join:2000-06-26 Camelot clubs:   | Re: [CritEditY] Doing a freebie add...
Very cool a nice concept and execution. |
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  Kringle Dr.D Premium join:2004-02-27 Pierrefonds, QC
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| reply to thearendts I tried really hard to find something that didn't work and I was stymied. Very well done in all respects! 
The only picayune little detail that I would change is to clone out the "Do Not Enter" sign in the background because you don't want a negative message in an inviting advertisement. |
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  SandShark So it goes Premium,MVM join:2000-05-23 Santa Fe, TX clubs: | reply to thearendts Looks great to me. Well done. --
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  TJ19971 Blues fan with a camera Premium join:2003-10-11 Sioux Falls, SD | reply to thearendts Looks fantastic! |
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  emk1028 Premium join:2006-04-23 Douglassville, PA | reply to thearendts That is a very good eye catcher. Well done!! |
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  Kalford Seems To Be An Rtfm Problem. Premium,MVM join:2001-03-20 Ontario
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edit: July 8th, @12:44PM
| reply to thearendts As others have said it's a great idea that came out looking great.
A few minor suggestions shown through a quick edit that I would think would help an already excellent piece of work.
1. removed two little black pieces sticking out from left leg. 2. added space between right foot and right edge. 3. added space between bottom of left for and bottom edge. (in both 2 & 3 - I made spacing approx the same as that between shadow and left edge).
4. I Tried to give the ground some depth as it looked a bit like the boy was floating. You will note a faint line that I drew in that suggests where the floor meets the wall (it's actually positioned wrong, but positioning it properly would require moving the logo, which would hard on a single layer with gradient). Once I could "see a floor", I added a horizontal streak to a new gradient that I then merged into the existing gradient. (with more time and working with multiple layers the gradients could merge seamlessly)
5. I would also be inclined to try to incorporate the original shadow (mask the original shadow and re-create it in a new layer in grey tones) into the final graphic. It will give the image a little extra "kick". - I did try to do a shadow in this example edit, but without the original to go by, it didn't come out too good.
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edit: July 8th, @12:50PM
| said by Kalford :1. removed two little black pieces sticking out from left leg. His belt??? 
Very nice work on the other stuff. It adds even more realism.
Now, has anybody noticed that the perspective on the picture frame is correct for the vertical edges but is non−existent for the horizontal borders? |
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| reply to thearendts
 no shadow | |  with shadow | |
just a quick sample to give you an idea of how re-introducing the shadows into your image can remove the "floating" appearance and give it that extra kick.  -- Through My Eyes |
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| reply to Kringle said by Kringle :said by Kalford :1. removed two little black pieces sticking out from left leg. His belt???  Very nice work on the other stuff. It adds even more realism. Now, has anybody noticed that the perspective on the picture frame is correct for the vertical edges but is non−existent for the horizontal borders? Ah. I guess his belt would make sense. Still, I found it distracting. so *poof* gone - no more distraction. 
I think the perspective of the picture frame border work fine as-is. As you said, it correctly matches on the vertical, while I find that the horizontal is properly balanced within the whole image itself.
If you were to add some texture to the wall and a well-pronounced edge to where the wall meets the "floor", I think you would find that the horizontal edges of the picture frame line up pretty good to the perspective within that dimensional space.  -- Through My Eyes |
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  Kringle Dr.D Premium join:2004-02-27 Pierrefonds, QC
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| said by Kalford :If you were to add some texture to the wall and a well-pronounced edge to where the wall meets the "floor", I think you would find that the horizontal edges of the picture frame line up pretty good to the perspective within that dimensional space. I think you missed my point because I didn't explain it properly. The outside of the frame has the correct perspective but that's not what I was talking about. The vertical frame borders' size is fatter when closer and this is also right. The horizontal frame borders, however, don't get thinner as they get further away. |
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| said by Kringle :The horizontal frame borders, however, don't get thinner as they get further away. Actually, the horizontal borders do get thinner as they get further away. It's probably due the fact that they were done correctly that it's making you think they aren't.  -- Through My Eyes |
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| reply to Kalford said by Kalford :1. removed two little black pieces sticking out from left leg. 2. added space between right foot and right edge. 3. added space between bottom of left for and bottom edge. (in both 2 & 3 - I made spacing approx the same as that between shadow and left edge). 4. I Tried to give the ground some depth as it looked a bit like the boy was floating. You will note a faint line that I drew in that suggests where the floor meets the wall (it's actually positioned wrong, but positioning it properly would require moving the logo, which would hard on a single layer with gradient). Once I could "see a floor", I added a horizontal streak to a new gradient that I then merged into the existing gradient. (with more time and working with multiple layers the gradients could merge seamlessly) 5. I would also be inclined to try to incorporate the original shadow (mask the original shadow and re-create it in a new layer in grey tones) into the final graphic. It will give the image a little extra "kick".  - I did try to do a shadow in this example edit, but without the original to go by, it didn't come out too good. Thanks for looking at it and for you suggestions. The little black marks were indeed his belt.
I have edited it a bit more since posting and have added the extra space that you mentioned as well as having the kickers head outside the frame as well.
As for the shadows, it was taken at near noon and his shadow is prett much on the backs of the kids he is jumping over.
I am going to try and "create" a floor to give better perspective, but, am rather new at CS3 and am still trying to wrap my head around masks, layers, and such. |
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| I was thinking of the shadow of the boy holding the board. That might help to make his feet look like they are on the ground instead of floating. (You would probably want to maintain the feel of the other boy floating in mid-air ) -- Through My Eyes |
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| Well, that certainly makes much more sense, lol. The way I cropped this picture I took out a good bit of his shadow. I may go back and cut it out of the original and put it into this one.
Since this was my first OOB attempt, you can see I have a lot to learn in regard to perspective of the external object in relation to the frame. |
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| reply to thearendts Re: [CritEditY] Doing a freebie ad...
You said this was for an advertisment. Shouldn't the logo be bigger and have a phone number/address? After all this is supposed to draw more customers! -- 09-F9-11-02-9D-74-E3-5B-D8-41-56-C5-63-56-88-C0 What is it? Is IT? What is it? |
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| reply to thearendts I think that your concept is excellent and the end result, however you've improved it, can only add to it. My niece would have loved to have had you work on something like this, free, for her Dojo!  |
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edit: July 8th, @08:30PM
| reply to kados said by kados :You said this was for an advertisment. Shouldn't the logo be bigger and have a phone number/address? After all this is supposed to draw more customers! Well, the logo I have to work with is very small originally and doesn't lend itself to getting much larger. I am trying to get them to get me a larger logo to work with and I will fill in all the contact info after I get the graphics worked out. |
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  DreamWraith Premium join:2004-04-07 Mount Vernon, WA | If you have to, take a photo of your daughters shirt with the logo. |
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  JAAulde yum yum yum yum yum Premium,MVM join:2001-05-09 Hagerstown, MD | reply to thearendts I agree that this is a great concept and you did very, very well!
The only thing I am not really getting is the background of the 'poster'. Was the class actually sitting outside in front of a minivan and a bent over woman? |
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