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Mactron
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Re: An advantage of FTTH is to end copper maintenance

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Just more of the "I want my cake and eat it too" attitude. They want the high speed and reliability of fiber, but they want it at low cost.
Yup, and why not if I can.
Personally I could care less if they "take the copper". As a home owner I want all the resellabity (is that a word?..) /resale value I can offer a buyer some day. Not everyone is a BB nut like we are. Bottom line it's a choice I hope to make some day, and I'll try very hard to keep the copper in place. Why not if they give you that choice?
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RARPSL

join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY

said by Mactron See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Just more of the "I want my cake and eat it too" attitude. They want the high speed and reliability of fiber, but they want it at low cost.
Yup, and why not if I can.
Personally I could care less if they "take the copper". As a home owner I want all the resellabity (is that a word?..) /resale value I can offer a buyer some day. Not everyone is a BB nut like we are. Bottom line it's a choice I hope to make some day, and I'll try very hard to keep the copper in place. Why not if they give you that choice?
I agree. If I upgrade to FIOS and let Verizon remove the copper run to my home, I am reducing the resale value/desirability from what it would be with the Copper still there. While a pre-wired FIOS connection should increase the value of my home, without the Copper the new buyer is stuck with FIOS only and must take it or have no Internet Connectivity (ie: They can not just get DSL speeds/cost or a non-Verizon connection [aside from Cable of course] since without copper the DSL from any vendor is not possible). IOW: Just because I want FIOS, that does not mean the next owner does and not a least speedy alternative.

DMS1

join:2005-04-06
Carrollton, TX

said by RARPSL See Profile :

I agree. If I upgrade to FIOS and let Verizon remove the copper run to my home, I am reducing the resale value/desirability from what it would be with the Copper still there. While a pre-wired FIOS connection should increase the value of my home, without the Copper the new buyer is stuck with FIOS only and must take it or have no Internet Connectivity (ie: They can not just get DSL speeds/cost or a non-Verizon connection [aside from Cable of course] since without copper the DSL from any vendor is not possible). IOW: Just because I want FIOS, that does not mean the next owner does and not a least speedy alternative.
That is a very weak argument and one that I feel will be mute very soon. Once FiOS is active in an area, Verizon wants to migrate all customers to it as quickly as possible. Whilst this will ultimately involve forcing existing customers to migrate, a very simple interim move (and one I believe they are already doing in some areas) is to only allow new activations to be on FiOS. In other words, even if your house has copper to it when sold, the new owners will get FiOS as part of them signing up for phone service.


RARPSL

join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY

said by DMS1 See Profile :

said by RARPSL See Profile :

I agree. If I upgrade to FIOS and let Verizon remove the copper run to my home, I am reducing the resale value/desirability from what it would be with the Copper still there. While a pre-wired FIOS connection should increase the value of my home, without the Copper the new buyer is stuck with FIOS only and must take it or have no Internet Connectivity (ie: They can not just get DSL speeds/cost or a non-Verizon connection [aside from Cable of course] since without copper the DSL from any vendor is not possible). IOW: Just because I want FIOS, that does not mean the next owner does and not a least speedy alternative.
That is a very weak argument and one that I feel will be mute very soon. Once FiOS is active in an area, Verizon wants to migrate all customers to it as quickly as possible. Whilst this will ultimately involve forcing existing customers to migrate, a very simple interim move (and one I believe they are already doing in some areas) is to only allow new activations to be on FiOS. In other words, even if your house has copper to it when sold, the new owners will get FiOS as part of them signing up for phone service.
IOW: Verizon by pushing FiOS is preventing the new owner from getting ANY Internet Service other than their FiOS Internet (ie: No ability to get DSL from Verizon or any other DSL Provider) or that offered by the local Cable Company.
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